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Why do Democrats crave defeat?
Townhall.com ^ | March 25, 2007 | Kevin McCullough

Posted on 03/24/2007 10:39:38 PM PDT by jazusamo

Sunday, March 25, 2007

Please explain something to me. What is this obsession that liberals have with seeing America destroyed?

Why are they so intent on humiliating their fellow citizens? And why don't they have at least some modicum of pride about the greatest nation the world has ever produced?

In other words, why are they so insistent on seeing America pummeled?

It is clear from the way they recoil when someone refers to them as "anti-American" or "unpatriotic" that there is a piece of them (however insignificantly tiny) that does not wish to be classified as such.

But I cannot for the life of me comprehend why they are so offended. It seems to me that if you love your country, that you love it most when it faces its toughest challenges. But this is not the case with John Murtha, Nancy Pelosi, Rahm Emmanuel, and the other 215 that first authored, then voted for, the bill that would hand over victory to the terrorists we have been battling so hard to defeat since 9/11.

In their own echo-chamber vanity Murtha, Pelosi and company believe themselves to be smarter than the commanders of the operations in the war on terror. And they believe that we will sit mesmerized, like sheep, while they single-handedly attempt to give the terrorists a date for victory - August 31, 2008.

But they didn't just author defeat - they campaigned for it.

Only a day or two earlier the "let the terrorists win" bill looked like it was in deep trouble. Some of the more socially conservative blue-dog democrats argued that it would not play well to the average citizen to be authoring a bill, and to hold hostage the paychecks of the men and women in uniform over the issue of when we give victory to the other side.

And that is when the $96 million dollar supplement began to expand like Murtha's waistline. When it was finally passed it had ballooned to nearly $124 million.

Now don't get me wrong - I think that spending more on defense is nearly always a good thing. The problem with this evolving spending measure was that it was all about the pork. The additional $28 million added to the bill was the price of all the "gimmes" that Democrat leadership was forced to pony up just to bribe, er... buy, scratch that... secure the reluctant congressional members’ votes. And by increasing the price tag by more than an additional one fourth of the monies of the original supplement, they were only able to get 218 votes - the barest of bare minimums to get the measure passed.

So not only did the Democrats author a resolution that called for the terrorists to claim victory on August 31, 2008, not only did they twist arms of lower ranking members to get them on board, now they were willing to spend the money that you and I are sending them by way of our tax bill - to fund the effort to buy congressional members' loyalty to the concept of the terrorists winning.

Am I the only one in America that thinks this is truly, dastardly, diabolically - sick?

Personally I believe I work far too many hours, for not nearly enough money, to be paying the exorbitant amount of taxes - to only have them be used against the safety and welfare of my family.

How do these people sleep at night?

It is one thing to attempt to a have a philosophical position that spouts platitudes about the violence of our world. It's another to be against war as a general principle and long for the day when conflicts can truly be decided by judgment and fair play.

But when we have sinister forces on earth that seek our destruction and we have members of Congress who instead of representing the safety, security, and freedoms of America - decide instead to take our own income and bankroll our future destruction, then somebody, somewhere has to say something!

Fortunately we have a President who will have the judgment to veto this measure. But I am still greatly disturbed by the fact that the "People's House" of those who represent us, are so eager to wave the flag of surrender. They could not telegraph any more precisely how they would like to see us lose, and the terrorists win, than by putting a date on a piece of legislation for total terrorist victory… And they did it before our watching eyes.

It is unwise to believe that 218 congressional members know more about the situation on the ground than the commanders who serve us without political bias or corruption.

It is unsafe to surrender the type of staging ground Iraq would become if we were to leave the terrorists there unmolested and undefeated.

It is un-American to act in the interest of our enemies.

It is unpatriotic (against one’s love for one’s own country) to legislate, campaign in favor of, and bribe representatives to vote for defeat.

And it is unacceptable that Democrats spit on “We The People” in this fashion.


TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: democrat; democrats; dncvalues; kmc; liberalagenda; liberals; stuckonstupid
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To: mkjessup
Tell it to Phil, he seems to want to serve as defense attorney for any number of our domestic traitors.
Just popping the bubbles of hyperbole you're blowing.
81 posted on 03/25/2007 7:00:23 AM PDT by philman_36
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To: jazusamo
There is a real simple reason why the Democrats Leadership is so desperate to manufacture defeat in Iraq.

Victory in Iraq demonstrates conclusively that the Democrat Leadership, the left over remnants of the 1960s Radical "Anti War" movement, have been wrong their whole political lives. They were wrong to oppose Vietnam in their youth, wrong to oppose Reagan defeat of the Soviet Union, wrong to oppose this war.

Their whole lives have been a reckless exercise in self absorbed arrogance and hubris. They have spent their entire lives screaming simplistic silly slogans about how they feel the world should work. The victory being achieved in Iraq right now proves them wrong. Wrong to have opposed Vietnam and wrong in everything since then.

Conceding victory on Iraq to Bush and the Republicans would require the Democrats to admit their whole view on how to conduct International Relations is wrong and has always been wrong. Rather then EVER admit to being wrong on anything the titanic egos that run the Democrat Congress will do everything in their power to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.
82 posted on 03/25/2007 7:07:33 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (If you will try being smarter, I will try being nicer.)
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To: Tut; All

I have not read the letter. Thank you very much for the website.

Somewhat related, I found this to be a very interesting read this weekend...

http://www.islam-watch.org/NoSharia/PreventEuropeIslamization6.htm

Many thanks to NoSharia.


83 posted on 03/25/2007 7:22:50 AM PDT by PGalt
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To: jazusamo

Democrats don't crave defeat.
They are fighting a war for world government and socialism.
The enemy just happens to be Freedom and the USA.


84 posted on 03/25/2007 7:25:52 AM PDT by BuffaloJack
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To: mkjessup

No witty rejoinder or did I hit too close to home?


85 posted on 03/25/2007 7:29:02 AM PDT by philman_36
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To: Cannoneer No. 4; LS; leadpenny; mo; Phsstpok; rodguy911; linux07ster; george76
It is much worse than that. It is frightening/fascinating/unbelievable. Rahm is my congressman and lives in my neighborhood. He is a very effective politician, a Clinton operative, whatever that means.

I did a google search on the fallowing: Rahm Emanuel $18 million dresdner Kleinwort Wasserstein

I only go into the cached version since it makes the searches so much easier. If you look at the New Editor, dated May 4, 2005 you will find the following:

"Chairman of the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee Rahm Emanuel (IL) reported a net worth of at least $9 million, with annual income in interest and dividends of almost $400,000 per year. (Rep. Emanuel, who made almost $10 million in 2002, accumulated the bulk of his net worth between 1999-2002 after serving in the Clinton Administration, when, with no experience in the field, he was hired as an investment banker at Dresdner Kleinwort Wasserstein. There is nothing illegal in this, as many trade-off of previous government contacts and reap big rewards. Besides, benefiting from politics seems to run in Emanuel's family: his brother Ari was filmmaker Michael Moore's agent for the movie "Fahrenheit 9/11.")"
86 posted on 03/25/2007 7:29:31 AM PDT by Chgogal (Vote Al Qaeda. Vote Democrat.)
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To: jazusamo; Darkwolf377; Cannoneer No. 4; leadpenny; Mo1; Phsstpok; george76; Grampa Dave; LS
It is confirmed Rahm Emanual's brother Ari was agent to Micheal Moore's F 9/11

http://www.deadlinehollywooddaily.com/does-aris-mom-have-a-secret-recipe/

Does Ari's Mom Have A Secret Recipe?
87 posted on 03/25/2007 7:37:34 AM PDT by Chgogal (Vote Al Qaeda. Vote Democrat.)
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To: Mo1
I meant to ping you. You inspired me to do the search. Thank you.
88 posted on 03/25/2007 7:38:31 AM PDT by Chgogal (Vote Al Qaeda. Vote Democrat.)
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To: philman_36; All
No witty rejoinder or did I hit too close to home?

Not at all Phil, I just didn't want to take up your valuable time from preparing to defend treasonous scumbags and journalists, all of which I'm sure can count on you as a true friend.
89 posted on 03/25/2007 7:46:51 AM PDT by mkjessup (If Reagan were still with us, he'd ask us to "win one more for the Gipper, vote for Duncan Hunter!")
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To: Chgogal
I'll bet Emanual has lots of "family" ties ... if ya know what I mean

Might explain why they are having so many Dem conferences in Vegas these days
90 posted on 03/25/2007 7:48:39 AM PDT by Mo1 ( http://www.gohunter08.com)
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To: mkjessup
There you go with your hyperbole again. Let some air out of that bubble.

What is the deal with "All". Is that a cry for help?

91 posted on 03/25/2007 7:55:32 AM PDT by philman_36
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To: mkjessup

BTW, hyperbole is defined as - extravagant exaggeration.


92 posted on 03/25/2007 7:57:00 AM PDT by philman_36
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To: Chgogal

Thanks.

Rahm Emanuel is making millions by pandering to the stupid liberals. Like the Clintons, he says one thing but does he opposite.


93 posted on 03/25/2007 8:01:40 AM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: philman_36
There you go with your hyperbole again. Let some air out of that bubble. What is the deal with "All". Is that a cry for help?

You know Phil, I'm beginning to think you've got a fixation on me. Maybe you need a few tokes to mellow you out?

And don't worry about who I post to, be it you, or be it "all", that's my perogative and you don't have a damn thing to say about it.
94 posted on 03/25/2007 8:13:32 AM PDT by mkjessup (If Reagan were still with us, he'd ask us to "win one more for the Gipper, vote for Duncan Hunter!")
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To: jazusamo

Its not the politicians so much that digust me. Its the endless hordes of libtards on blogs who celebrate every bad event that happens to the United States while downplaying every good event.


95 posted on 03/25/2007 8:13:44 AM PDT by Democratshavenobrains
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To: jazusamo
The Democrats do not want America defeated, they just want the threats to America strengthened and institutionalized. It is in their interests to make sure that there is a Booggey Man out there to ensure rationale and support for the bigger government and personal powers necessary to protect us from it. Defeating our enemies diminishes the prize.
96 posted on 03/25/2007 8:15:02 AM PDT by Natural Law
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To: jazusamo
What is this obsession that liberals have with seeing America destroyed?

The goal of the left is a one world Marxist secular humanist government with them in control of the world. A strong pro individualist pro capitalist United States is their worst enemy. Even worse than Muslims.

97 posted on 03/25/2007 8:21:16 AM PDT by mjp (I don't want to live in Mexico, Marxico, or Muslimico. I want limited government and lower taxes.)
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To: CyberAnt
That's why we have the hate-Bush all the time garbage. And .. frankly .. I'm pretty sick of it.

Well said, as am I and many others...It's gotten really old.

98 posted on 03/25/2007 8:21:49 AM PDT by jazusamo (http://warchronicle.com/TheyAreNotKillers/DefendOurMarines.htm)
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To: jazusamo
And why don't they have at least some modicum of pride about the greatest nation the world has ever produced?

They know in their bones that they, and people like themselves had absolutely nothing to do with America's greatness.

99 posted on 03/25/2007 8:22:02 AM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: Darkwolf377

Well said, I couldn't add a thing.


100 posted on 03/25/2007 8:24:02 AM PDT by JayAr36
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