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Why do Democrats crave defeat?
Townhall.com ^ | March 25, 2007 | Kevin McCullough

Posted on 03/24/2007 10:39:38 PM PDT by jazusamo

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To: jazusamo
What is this obsession that liberals have with seeing America destroyed?

Yo' Kevin McCullough -

Have you any sense of what compromises a socialist?

21 posted on 03/24/2007 11:17:44 PM PDT by quantim (2008 => I'll take an imperfect winner over a perfect loser.)
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To: jazusamo

It is really very simple. The overwhelming majority of democrats and a few Republicans in Congress are cowards.


22 posted on 03/24/2007 11:18:33 PM PDT by gpapa (Boost FR Traffic! Make FR your home page!)
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To: jazusamo


23 posted on 03/24/2007 11:22:35 PM PDT by quantim (2008 => I'll take an imperfect winner over a perfect loser.)
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To: mkjessup

As so many of the responses on this thread have been, your post was a treat to read.

All of my treasure for the ability to write so clearly and with the greatness that some of you folks seemingly do with ease, confidence and wisdom.

Democrats are indeed worthless cowards, traitors and liars, all.

We certainly have our own problems, failings and weight to carry, but these Traitors will only have value... when their bodies have rotted and they become nourishment for plant life, period.


24 posted on 03/24/2007 11:27:00 PM PDT by Gator113
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To: jazusamo
Perhaps the left confuses family with global. The instinctual interactions between parents, children, siblings, teams, herds, packs, ... are deep in our bones. Not just humans, but all social animals have such instincts.

Within the family or team, it's one for all and all for one, from each according to the ability to each according to their need. Very Marxist. Any child worth their salt would cry bloody murder if their parent gave their sibling millions and a life of luxury, while they were left to clean the fire place like poor Cinderella.

It takes a firm grounding in religion, history or other studies to learn that the rules by which communities, economies, corporations and nations best operate are quite different.

The leftists lack this grounding. Perhaps in a few cases they are well read, but they haven't learned to apply different rules to the world at large.

They instinctively hate the successful, the wealthy, the biggest businesses, the wealthiest nations, and in particular the modestly wealthy, big business friendly, leader of the wealthiest nation - President Bush. They go after big oil, big drug, big hamburger, big retail, big tobacco, big auto, big military, big anything. It's all evil to them.

They get spitting mad at all this ... It's just not fair!! If someone has a million times another, it is just plain evil! Nevermind that the only alternative is for almost everyone to live in deep poverty, poorer than the poorest American.

They live in fear, fear arising from lack of faith. And as all fearful people, they are particularly subject to rage, jealousy, envy and hatred.

They are the left. Their leaders have known for a century that a well taught, faith based, population is the mortal enemy of concentrated (in their hands) power at the highest levels. Their leaders have somewhat successfully worked to undermine the religious and educational basis of a strong citizenry.

We fight on two fronts - Islamic Jihad and Leftist Marxism. I don't know which is more dangerous, but I suspect that it is the latter.

25 posted on 03/24/2007 11:30:20 PM PDT by ThePythonicCow (The Greens steal in fear of pollution, The Reds in fear of greed; Fear arising from a lack of Faith.)
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To: jazusamo

The answer is very simple. The Democrat party is the communist party in drag (although their masks are beginning to come off) and their goal is, and always has been, to overthrow the United States government and replace it with a soviet state. This is what it's all about and before it's over, there will be another civil war, the soviets will be defeated, and we will get our country back.


26 posted on 03/24/2007 11:30:46 PM PDT by A6M3
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To: Darkwolf377

Sorry, meant cultural self-hatred.


27 posted on 03/24/2007 11:34:22 PM PDT by PetroniusMaximus
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To: jazusamo

Democrats want to be in charge,and they will do ANYTHING to get that power ,even if it means America's demise.With their latest vote the Dems had to nearly promise the moon to get some of their own people to vote for it.Something is going to happen,sooner or later, and the Dems will be unable to blame anyone but themselves.


28 posted on 03/24/2007 11:34:38 PM PDT by screaming eagle2 (No matter what you call it,a pre-owned vehicle is still a USED CAR!)
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To: jazusamo

There is a peculiar mindset, found especially often in liberals, that believes that anything that's exceptionally good, by its existence, will make everything else (including themselves) worse. By destroying the good things they can thus make everything else, including themselves, better by comparison.


29 posted on 03/24/2007 11:36:20 PM PDT by supercat (Sony delenda est.)
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To: ThePythonicCow

Thanks for your post.

I almost didn't post this article tonight because it's passed my usual bedtime but I figured I would go ahead for the late ones here.

I'm glad I did, there are many great posts on it.


30 posted on 03/24/2007 11:37:51 PM PDT by jazusamo (http://warchronicle.com/TheyAreNotKillers/DefendOurMarines.htm)
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To: Tut

archive bump


31 posted on 03/24/2007 11:51:22 PM PDT by Christian4Bush (Too bad these leftist advocates for abortion didn't practice what they preach on themselves.)
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To: PetroniusMaximus

Yeah, as I mentioned in my initial post, they sure do hate the very society that has given them a platform to express their hatred of it.


32 posted on 03/24/2007 11:57:26 PM PDT by Darkwolf377 (Anti-socialist Bostonian, Anti-Illegal Immigration Bush supporter, Pro-Life Atheist)
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To: advance_copy; Cannonette; Chgogal; FreedomPoster; neverdem; Tainan; archy

Some outstanding contributions on this thread.


33 posted on 03/25/2007 12:01:09 AM PDT by Cannoneer No. 4 (Civilian Irregular Information Defense Group -- Distributed IO and counter-PsyOps)
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To: Tut; Cannonette; Chgogal; Chickenhawk Warmonger; xzins; PsyOp; Calpernia; Steel Wolf; DevSix; ...

The more I learn about Information Operations and Psychological Operations, the more I realize what a job is being done on the American domestic target audience.


34 posted on 03/25/2007 12:06:20 AM PDT by Cannoneer No. 4 (Civilian Irregular Information Defense Group -- Distributed IO and counter-PsyOps)
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To: A6M3

Wow, spot on! Be careful about using the "C" word in public though, as you'll immediately be labeled a McCartheyist. I prefer "Bolsheviks."


35 posted on 03/25/2007 12:10:55 AM PDT by oprahstheantichrist (Stop calling them "liberals," they're Bolsheviks!)
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To: ThePythonicCow; Cannonette
Great post!

What we now recognize as Islamic Jihad was fomented with Soviet assistance. Cultural Marxism/political correctness served as an information operations preparation of the battlefield for the current iteration of this multi-century war of civilizations.

36 posted on 03/25/2007 12:12:45 AM PDT by Cannoneer No. 4 (Civilian Irregular Information Defense Group -- Distributed IO and counter-PsyOps)
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To: advance_copy

Excellent read.

Thank you very much.


37 posted on 03/25/2007 12:13:44 AM PDT by Gator113
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To: quantim; KMC

Ping to Kevin!


38 posted on 03/25/2007 12:13:49 AM PDT by oprahstheantichrist (Stop calling them "liberals," they're Bolsheviks!)
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To: jazusamo
Democrats are liberals, and to the liberal nothing else matters as much as dominion over the people. They crave power, absolute power and total power. George W. Bush denied them that power twice -- first in 2000 when a Gore presidency, in their minds a natural continuation of the Clinton presidency, was "stolen" from them. The fact that Bush got so many votes as he did challenging the successor to a popular president, was a shock in itself. So the Democrats spent four years languishing and preparing for an epic battle to reclaim what was rightfully theirs. Then the blow came in 2004 that totally humiliated them. Election 2004 left no doubt about Bush's legimitacy; Bush was now far more legitimate than Clinton had ever been. This was the ultimate insult.

So what were the Democrats to do ? Not Much. They were turning into frothing maniacal rabid dogs - biting and clawing at anything they could. And as Rush likes to say, descending into the first stages of utter madness. They had failed in everything else until then including their prediction about the economy.

So their only hope lay in Iraq, which unfortunately for them was out of their control. Well not entirely, but for the most part. If Bush was to be discredited, paving the way for 2008,** AMERICA MUST LOSE**. This is Bush's war, so America must not only lose, it must be HUMILIATED like never before - and if possible with body count in the tens of thousands. But how can the Democrats achieve that ? There are two ways that are obvious a) Force a withdrawal -- a withdrawal in the public's eye is a defeat because the job is still unfinished. And thats all they care about - how the public perceives it. b) Cut off funding. If you cut off funding then b) leads to a) and the Democrat mission is accomplished.

In conclusion, the Democrats do not care about America. They do not really care if America wins or America loses so long as they can reclaim power in 2008. But for now, an American defeat to them is a means to an end. That my FRiends is why the Democrats crave defeat.

39 posted on 03/25/2007 12:17:19 AM PDT by HarmlessLovableFuzzball
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To: oprahstheantichrist

Ah, the good old B word. I agree it's safer, but only because the graduates of todays indoctrination centers (Universities) don't know what "Bolshevik" means.


40 posted on 03/25/2007 12:28:17 AM PDT by A6M3
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