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.."JORNEY from the FALL".. is a Motion Picture MUST see for all who LOVE Freedom.
For this time around,
...History must NOT be repeated.
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To: All; smoothsailing; freema; fatima; kristinn; NYer; RonDog
2 posted on
03/24/2007 5:03:01 PM PDT by
ALOHA RONNIE
("ALOHA RONNIE" Guyer/Veteran-"WE WERE SOLDIERS" Battle of IA DRANG-1965 http://www.lzxray.com)
To: ALOHA RONNIE
I was intimately involved in the aftermath. I lived and worked in a refugee camp. I sit and re-read letters sent to me by those who passed through the camp.
I am preparing a letter to all the cut and run Ratz.
They will not like it.
3 posted on
03/24/2007 5:08:34 PM PDT by
Al Gator
(Refusing to "stoop to your enemy's level", gets you cut off at the knees.)
To: All; smoothsailing; reformjoy; ThanhPhero; angkor; Calpernia; Lexington Green; ExTexasRedhead
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NEVER FORGET
Pictures of a vietnamese Re-Education (SLAVE LABOR) Camp
http://www.Freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1308949/posts
(Pictures from .."JOURNEY from the FALL".. that were posted on the above Freerepublic.com Forum Thread ...4 Months before its 1st Preview ...in Little Saigon, California. Marking the 30th Anniversary of the Fall of Saigon)
NEVER FORGET
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4 posted on
03/24/2007 5:15:44 PM PDT by
ALOHA RONNIE
("ALOHA RONNIE" Guyer/Veteran-"WE WERE SOLDIERS" Battle of IA DRANG-1965 http://www.lzxray.com)
To: All; ThanhPhero; kristinn; Jimmy Valentine's brother; miltonim; JoeSixPack1
6 posted on
03/24/2007 5:28:01 PM PDT by
ALOHA RONNIE
("ALOHA RONNIE" Guyer/Veteran-"WE WERE SOLDIERS" Battle of IA DRANG-1965 http://www.lzxray.com)
To: ALOHA RONNIE
UP...
7 posted on
03/24/2007 5:47:17 PM PDT by
Chode
(American Hedonist ??)
To: ALOHA RONNIE
I don't go to movies much, 2 in the last 5 years but I want to see this one. Unfortunately there is little chance that it will ever be in a theater within a hundred miles of here so I have to wait and hope for DVD.
8 posted on
03/24/2007 5:51:09 PM PDT by
ThanhPhero
(di hanh huong den La Vang)
To: ALOHA RONNIE
I alway thought it odd that the Russians were more wary of direct Chinese involvement in the war more than we were. For us it would have been a problem, for the Russians a major disaster.
9 posted on
03/24/2007 5:56:15 PM PDT by
Hillarys Gate Cult
(The man who said "there's no such thing as a stupid question" has never talked to Helen Thomas.)
To: ALOHA RONNIE
10 posted on
03/24/2007 6:33:20 PM PDT by
smoothsailing
(http://www.gatheringofeagles.org/)
To: ALOHA RONNIE
This film accurately and sadly shares the horrible human consequences resulting from the 1975 Fall of Saigon. A Fall brought about when a post-WATERGATE Democrat Congress cut off all our funding for the then Free South Vietnamese People to fight for their own Freedom with against Communist invaders...slowly, slowly the truth is getting out - military historians now are pretty much in agreement that the Tet Offensive, unlike what we were told in the press originally, was a stunning defeat for the North Vietnamese - the loud-mouths of the Boomer generation, which gets so much of its sense of its own moral superiority from its anti-war activities, will continue to try to bury the facts about Vietnam and how much they really hurt the US and all of southeast asia with their actions, but movies such as this will help future generations know what really happened - and there's nothing the Boomers can do to stop it.......
To: Jim Robinson; 1COUNTER-MORTER-68; 1stbn27; 31M20RedDevil; 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub; afnamvet; ...
Thank you, Aloha Ronnie, for posting this information.
I hardly ever ping my list of Vietnam veterans, but seem to have more occasions to do so of late, so here goes....:)
See links in posts 2 and 11.
18 posted on
03/25/2007 12:01:25 PM PDT by
La Enchiladita
(Hunter/Poe 2008 "Once again, our government is on the wrong side of the border war")
To: ALOHA RONNIE
Good morning.
"...History must NOT be repeated."
BUMP!!!
This time, will the RATs have the decency to put a bullet in their own heads when millions die as a result of their actions? No, of course not.
Michael Frazier
To: ALOHA RONNIE
Thanks for the ping....what a disgrace then....and it appears that this generation of traitors disguised as congress critters is trying to do the same.
23 posted on
03/25/2007 12:37:30 PM PDT by
RVN Airplane Driver
("To be born into freedom is an accident; to die in freedom is an obligation..)
To: ALOHA RONNIE
24 posted on
03/25/2007 12:39:16 PM PDT by
smoothsailing
(http://www.gatheringofeagles.org/)
To: ALOHA RONNIE
29 posted on
03/25/2007 1:09:40 PM PDT by
Fiddlstix
(Warning! This Is A Subliminal Tagline! Read it at your own risk!(Presented by TagLines R US))
To: ALOHA RONNIE
VIETNAM VETERANS FOR ACADEMIC REFORM
The University of Kansas Student Auxiliary
The point:
"We know the media lied about Vietnam to further the goals of the leftist anti-war movement. We know Dan Rather and others lied about Bush to help the Democrats in 2004. Is it lying again to further an agenda of defeating the Republicans and getting the U.S. to abandon Iraq?"
excerpt...
Read the article at:http://www.v-v-a-r.org/
Protestors Wrong on Vietnam Then and on Iraq Now, Group Says
By Randy Hall
CNSNews.com Staff Writer/Editor
March 14, 2007
(CNSNews.com) - When thousands of people gather in Washington, D.C., on Saturday to protest the war in Iraq, a group of Vietnam veterans hopes to take advantage of what it sees as an "unprecedented opportunity" to expose "the massive lies told by the war protesters of the '60s" that are being used again today.
Leonard Magruder, president of Vietnam Veterans for Academic Reform (VVAR), would like to see Vietnam veterans distribute fliers during the demonstration with "documented facts that show how the war protestors of the '60s lied, and by recycling the same arguments again on March 17, will be lying again."
"Holding onto and perpetuating myths has too great a potential for creating another lethal, paralyzing polarization," Magruder argued in a letter this week. "We cannot win the war against terror with the campus building towards a polarization that could again paralyze a national effort."
The VVAR president cited the Vietnam Veterans Against the War website, which says: "The 58,000 U.S. soldiers who lost their lives in Vietnam and the millions of Vietnamese who were killed, died in a criminal war. The connection between Vietnam and Iraq could not be more clear. Iraq is also a criminal war of aggression."
"There they are again! Those toothless old hags of the protests of the '60s: 'criminal,' 'aggression,'" Magruder declared. "You can hurl these charges back in their faces on March 17 by handing out copies" of articles available at the VVAR website.
One document Magruder points to, called "Vietnam and the Media," provides "documentation from 21 standard histories and commentaries on the Vietnam War on how the media transformed a strategic American victory into a defeat, betraying the war effort."
"It's time the nation realize who the true 'criminals' are: the ones who betrayed Southeast Asia to tyranny and genocide," Magruder said.
Though not a Vietnam veteran himself, Magruder has been dealing with the fallout of the war for more than 25 years. He vividly recalls discussing the Vietnam War with students as a psychology professor in Long Island in 1981.
At the end of the semester, Magruder asked his pupils whether war had been just or "immoral," as war protestors had argued. To his surprise, 85 percent of the students said Vietnam had been a just war.
"Puzzled as to why the students of the 80's could see the truth so clearly, that there was nothing 'immoral' about defending South Vietnam against Communist aggression, while the students of the 60's could not, the students concluded that faculties, to serve their own largely leftist and Marxist ideologies, had misinformed their students, who in turn used the misinformation to serve their own purposes, primarily to avoid the draft," he said.
Magruder decided to resign from the university and join with local veterans to help found the VVAR.
'Facts are facts'
As Cybercast News Service previously reported, several veterans' organizations announced that they will be present during the March 17 protests to protect memorials from being damaged after an anti-war protest on Jan. 27 left steps and pavement outside the U.S. Capitol spray-painted with anarchist symbols.
In addition, the "These Colors Don't Run" caravan led by the conservative group Move America Forward is taking an eight-day, 3,500-mile trip to arrive in Washington, D.C., in time to counter the anti-war protests, which coincide with the fourth anniversary of the launch of the Iraq war.
John Zutz, a national officer with the Vietnam Veterans Against the War, told Cybercast News Service that the VVAR "can do whatever they want. They can say whatever they want. If they want to 'Swift Boat' it, let them. The facts are the facts."
The massacre of My Lai "is a fact. It happened," Zutz said. The execution of Vietnamese civilians by a U.S. Army unit called Tiger Force "was a fact. That happened for more than a year. The U.S. committed atrocities. Oh sure, the Vietnamese did, too, but that's what war is about.
"Innocent people get killed in war, and they're getting killed in Iraq today," he added. "Abu Ghraib is a fact. Guantanamo Bay is a fact. You can't argue with those."
Nevertheless, Zutz said neither he nor most of the Vietnam veterans he knows will take part in the march in D.C., because they will instead be holding their own peace march and rally at Fort Bragg in Fayette, N.C.
When scheduling the protest in Washington, D.C., the activists at International A.N.S.W.E.R. "didn't bother to ask us if we had anything going on that weekend," he noted. "We do."
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30 posted on
03/25/2007 1:45:56 PM PDT by
KeyLargo
To: ALOHA RONNIE
"The Americans have broken their promise. They have left us."
(Long Nguyen, South Vietnamese resistance fighter)
for all who LOVE Freedom.
For this time around,
...History must NOT be repeated.
To: ALOHA RONNIE
Refuges my ship picked p in 1981:
32 posted on
03/25/2007 2:03:26 PM PDT by
RaceBannon
(Innocent until proven guilty: The Pendleton 8...down to 3..GWB, we hardly knew ye...)
To: ALOHA RONNIE
It's interesting for me to watch people take information from today and use it to flog decisions made 40 years in the past. Then again, it's also laughable to compare the situation in 2008 Iraq to the situation in 1968 Vietnam. Or 1968 America with 2008 America.
Old men will always re-fight old wars, I guess.
46 posted on
03/26/2007 12:18:59 AM PDT by
Zeroisanumber
(Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
To: All; fatima; ExTexasRedhead; reformjoy; Alamo-Girl
54 posted on
03/31/2007 3:05:48 PM PDT by
ALOHA RONNIE
("ALOHA RONNIE" Guyer/Veteran-"WE WERE SOLDIERS" Battle of IA DRANG-1965 http://www.lzxray.com)
To: All; Coleus; BUNNY2003
63 posted on
04/05/2007 7:14:02 AM PDT by
ALOHA RONNIE
("ALOHA RONNIE" Guyer/Veteran-"WE WERE SOLDIERS" Battle of IA DRANG-1965 http://www.lzxray.com)
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