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To: garv

You cannot advance conservatism by losing. The idea that moral purity (which I assume you think you possess) will win in the end is simply a delusion. Only the winners win in the end.

If Rudy is a leftist, why is he so greatly hated by NYC leftists? As they say in the Mid-East, "the enemy of my enemy is my friend".


76 posted on 03/24/2007 12:07:55 PM PDT by neocon1984 (end the idiocy of post-modernism)
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To: neocon1984; Liz; All

"If Rudy is a leftist, why is he so greatly hated by NYC leftists?"

Who cares about NYC leftists, and what does this have to do with Rudy's horrible record vis a vis conservative doctrine?

Rudy is a bust, with or without his marriage problems.


78 posted on 03/24/2007 12:17:07 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Misery loves miserable company.......ask any liberal. Hunter in 08!)
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To: neocon1984
You cannot advance conservatism by abandoning it.

If Rudy is a leftist, why is he so greatly hated by NYC leftists? As they say in the Mid-East, "the enemy of my enemy is my friend".

Because he's not a Marxist. In Giuliani's case the enemy of my enemy is my friend as mayor of NYC, not president of the U.S.

80 posted on 03/24/2007 12:52:02 PM PDT by garv (Conservatism in '08 www.draftnewt.org)
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To: neocon1984
If Rudy is a leftist, why is he so greatly hated by NYC leftists? As they say in the Mid-East, "the enemy of my en
emy is my friend".




Rudy is NOT a leftist. He had extremely strong conservative fiscal policies in NYC, he reduced the welfare rolls, cleaned up the city and made it a good place for tourism again. He has a record that denies all the lies the Rudyphobes are spewing about him. In a perfect world, he would have the same conservative social politics I admire, but no one's perfect. He has my vote if he wins the nomination. And as a person who has been married more than once, living in a country where over half the population has been married more than once, and many are just living together, this will not deter people from supporting Rudy Giuliani for President if they want his leadership.
88 posted on 03/24/2007 4:55:12 PM PDT by KATIE-O (Rudy Giuliani - Restoring Optimism in '08)
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