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Royal Navy Incident: Iran?s larger trap
Political Mavens ^ | 24 MARCH 2007 | Walid Phares

Posted on 03/24/2007 5:21:18 AM PDT by radar101

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To: radar101
1) Iran’s domestic front is putting pressure on the Ahmedinijad regime.

ZZZZZZZZZZZZ.

61 posted on 03/24/2007 3:16:05 PM PDT by Stentor
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To: oldenuff2no

Your plan is sound....and I would volunteer to strap my old bones in an airplane and "hep" out with your plan....but first I think I will build a martini....


62 posted on 03/24/2007 3:28:35 PM PDT by RVN Airplane Driver ("To be born into freedom is an accident; to die in freedom is an obligation..)
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To: driftdiver
Just like that spy plane of ours that landed in China. How much intel did it provide to the Chinese and how foolish did it make us look?

Not much if any, and not especially. Thermite is a wonderful thing, and they needed to lighten the bird anyway, so all the documents, computer disks, etc went into the weighted bags, and are now spread out over a good chunk of the bottom of the South China Sea), Our guys never "confessed", nor did the President apologize beyond regretting the poor flying skills of the ChiCom jet jockey. We got the crew and the airplane back, albeit in pieces. Our military attache was given nearly immediate access to the squids on Hainn Island. It was also pretty obvious from the reactions of the local authorities there that the whole thing was *not* pre-planned.

We also got lots of pictures which made it pretty clear who ran into whom.

If anyone looked foolish, and petty, in the end, it was the ChiComs.

63 posted on 03/24/2007 3:29:51 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: SoldierMedic

Yes, a platoon would fight. Unless it is a deliberate move to sucker the Iranians, which could be so.


64 posted on 03/24/2007 3:31:27 PM PDT by RightWhale (Treaty rules;commerce droolz; Repeal the Treaty)
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To: beebuster2000
do you really think the Iranians would have killed the sailors on the high seas? I doubt it.

There are muslim fanactics. Of course they'd have killed them, cut their heads off, and demanded reparations.

65 posted on 03/24/2007 3:42:58 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: cpdiii
Inform them that if the men are not released a "very harsh" message will follow in 3 days.

If we EMP their communications, how will they be able to reply? (snicker!)

"Well, the bastards haven't answered us, so let's blow them to kingdom-come!"

66 posted on 03/24/2007 3:51:18 PM PDT by stboz
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To: Recon Dad

Sounds like the USS Pueblo incident where there was no one to back them up.


67 posted on 03/24/2007 3:58:36 PM PDT by NY Attitude (You are responsible for your safety until the arrival of Law Enforcement Officers!)
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To: mathurine

Thier to busy trying to defund our military! Helping the enemy from within!


68 posted on 03/24/2007 4:01:38 PM PDT by ronnie raygun (ID RATHER BE HUNTING WITH DICK THAN DRIVING WITH TED)
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To: Cooking101
It tells me that the Cornwall radioed for help and advice and was told to stand down.

This is the kind of Shiite that happens when you send JAG officers into the field to harass your own troops, rather than dealing with the legal niceties, contracts and such, necessary to successfully fight a war far from home.

69 posted on 03/24/2007 4:14:26 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: rahbert
Its really very easy to see why HMS Cornwall was told to stand down: a shooting conflict with Iran would spike oil prices and send the capital markets south.

Only in the short term my friend. The same was said about invading Iraq. Prices went up, then the went down and then up less than the first time, capital markets were barely affected.

70 posted on 03/24/2007 4:19:19 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: gotribe
They'll be going after nutjob and all his people around the world at one time.

How do you know about my private fantasies ????!!!!

President George "Godfather" Bush:

"Today is the Day I will deal with my enemies."

AminaWhackJob

"I'so Ronery Jung Ill"

Hugo "Baba WAWA has the Hots for Me" Chavez

Conehead "We're from FRANCE" Chirac

71 posted on 03/24/2007 5:13:35 PM PDT by happygrl
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To: Cooking101
Not what I would expect of the Navy that retook the Faulklands.
72 posted on 03/24/2007 6:40:41 PM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (BTUs are my Beat.)
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To: jws3sticks

I bet that there'd be some interesting fishing within that circle in several years.


73 posted on 03/24/2007 6:52:38 PM PDT by kaboom
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To: JayAr36
Yes, I guess it is always up to us. You know the dumb uneducated USA who came over in WWW and 2 to save their necks. Europe never learns.
74 posted on 03/25/2007 6:32:59 AM PDT by betsyross1776 (BIG HOME DO NOT BUY YOU HAPPINESS)
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To: kaboom

I would expect to find three headed tuna.


75 posted on 03/25/2007 10:11:13 AM PDT by jws3sticks (Hillary can take a very long walk on a very short pier, anytime, and the sooner the better!)
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To: radar101

bump


76 posted on 03/25/2007 1:28:47 PM PDT by GBA (God Bless America!)
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To: SoldierMedic
I cannot imagine how these sailors or marines allowed themselves to be captured. I'd have gone down fighting.

Such an incident happened 1-2 years ago and I am certain that their "Rules of Engagement" call for no heroics regardless of their personal views!!!

77 posted on 03/25/2007 3:45:59 PM PDT by ExSES (the "bottom-line")
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To: Waco
For while it feel that it can control the tactical battlefield in the region and fuel the propaganda pressure inside the West with its Petro-dollars

The Iranian Petro-dollars are being pumped into the West to fuel the propaganda pressure?

Sheehan?Murtha?Pelosi?NYT?CBS?Who?

78 posted on 03/25/2007 3:55:47 PM PDT by oldbrowser (First, Do No Harm.)
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To: ExSES
certain that their "Rules of Engagement" call for no heroics

It's hard to remember those rules when you're in a stressful situation. I would shoot until I had some stress free time to consult the manual.

79 posted on 03/25/2007 3:59:57 PM PDT by RightWhale (Treaty rules;commerce droolz; Repeal the Treaty)
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To: Cooking101

I like what Michael Savage said last Friday in regards to the British Navy. He first quoted Sir Winston Churchill who said that the "Royal Navy's greatest traditions were rum, sodomy, and the lash." Savage concluded that this latest episode in the British navy says that someone removed the lash.

Time is ticking for the British to do something.


80 posted on 03/25/2007 4:15:20 PM PDT by jonrick46
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