Dear spikeytx86,
"I don't get why some people cant just say 'I can not vote for him because I don't like his position on too many issues' instead of the vile spiel some do around here."
Well, part of the problem is that posters often get condemned for posting facts about Mr. Giuliani. It is a fact that Mr. Giuliani is very liberal on many social issues. It is a fact that he actually took guns from law-abiding citizens in New York City who previously were legally allowed to possess guns. It is a fact that he actually had a policy to have the option to seize cars from folks ACQUITTED of drunk driving charges. It is a fact that he's a serial adulterer and philanderer, that he paraded his latest floozy in front of all New York and his own children before divorcing his mother and marrying the floozy.
The rudybots might not like to hear this stuff and more, but it's true. And it's all germane to the question of whether we should vote for him.
As to the personal level between posters here, it's gotten ugly in part because those of us who have said that we will not vote for Mr. Giuliani have been attacked, often harshly and viciously, by rudybots. Often for little more than saying we won't vote for him, or for repeating the less edifying parts of Mr. Giuliani's record and life.
I've personally had my intelligence questioned, my integrity questioned, my patriotism, my party loyalty as well, to name a few items. I've been condescended to, told I'm naive, told I know nothing about politics, told that I'm over-emotional in my politics, otherwise called names, and been otherwise generally insulted.
I've seen some rudybots make stuff up, lie, have the lies pointed out repeatedly, seen the lies repeated.
Personally, I try not to respond in kind. I hope I haven't responded in kind too often; it's not my intention to lower myself to that level.
But it ain't easy.
sitetest