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Conferences to look at ‘threat‘ of Islam in NZ
http://www.spcm.org/Journal/spip.php?article7529 ^ | March, 20, 2007

Posted on 03/23/2007 2:22:14 AM PDT by Posting

Conferences to look at ‘threat‘ of Islam in NZ

http://www.spcm.org/Journal/spip.php?article7529 By Lynley Smith of Challenge Weekly, New Zealand

AUCKLAND, NZ — The time is ripe for the Church to face up to the threat of Islam in our country, to understand Islam’s agenda and to respond with the love of Christ, says Middle East Overseas Outreach New Zealand director Murray Dillner. That organisation, Open Doors NZ, Interserve and Asian Outreach are combining to host Mosque and Miracles conferences for the first time in New Zealand. They will be held in Christchurch, Wellington and Auckland in July, and are endorsed by Vision Network and Missions Interlink. “Those who work with Muslims estimate there are about 40,000 of them here,” said Mr Dillner. “The politicians estimate about 20,000 but others believe there are many more. Islam is having an impact.” Mr Dillner said he has become very aware that time is short before the pressure of ideologies such as radical Islam will “take away the freedoms we have in New Zealand and we will no longer have freedom of speech”. “The politicians will tell you Islam is a peaceful religion, but any former Muslim will tell you otherwise,” he said. “Wherever in the world Muslims have taken over, democracy no longer exists.” Mr Dillner said many Muslims came to New Zealand to find a better life, but many others came with a “missionary zeal” to take over the country. Muslims may in future, for example, promote the idea of instituting the call to Islamic prayer in their neighbourhoods. In many freezing works halal killing had become standard and a group of South Island farmers was considering starting up their own freezing works to avoid that religious practice. “They are saying, ‘Why should New Zealanders bow to Islam ?’ Islam has an agenda which is subtle and behind the scenes.” The two-day conferences have a three-fold purpose ; to educate Christians about Islam, to inform them of what is happening in the world in relation to Islam ; and to equip the Church to reach out rather than put up walls against Muslims. The conference will have a number of experienced speakers who have held Mosques and Miracles conferences twice in Australia and in South Africa last year. Dr Stuart Robinson, senior pastor of Crossway Church in Melbourne, worked for 14 years in South-east Asia with his wife, Margaret, and knows Islam intimately. His book Mosques and Miracles was the inspiration behind the tours. Daniel Shayesteh Dr Daniel Shayesteh is an Iranian who was involved in training the Hezbollah terrorist groups which operate in Lebanon, and supported the overthrow of the Iranian Government by Ayatollah Khomeini. Unfortunately he was aligned with the wrong political faction and found himself in prison awaiting execution. After a friend engineered his escape to Turkey he became a Christian. “He knows the radical side of Islam,” said Mr Dillner. “He knows he is on a hit list. When he walks out the door to work each morning, he knows he may not return.” Mr Shayesteh will give his testimony at an evening public meeting at each of the three conferences. Dr Mark Durie, vicar of St Mary’s Anglican Church in Caulfield, Melbourne, has conducted extensive field trips to the Acehnese Muslim people in Indonesia. Open Doors director Bruce Quedley said the conferences were not intended to stir up controversy but rather to educate the Church. “We want to show Christians how to value Muslim people more, and reach out to them,” he said. “New Zealanders react in fear when they see Muslim women wearing the veil. This makes the Muslim women feel isolated and left out completely and think they are living in a very unfriendly society. “People are afraid of Islam but we want to release them from that bondage.” Mr Quedley said the conference would cover such issues as whether we worship the same god – “that is a definite no” – and understanding the Muslim requirement that Christian and Jewish people must pay a tax and live as second-class citizens in society if they wish to live at peace with Muslims. Vision Network’s Glyn Carpenter said he was pleased to support the Mosques and Miracles tour because there was a need for a better understanding of Islam and its impact on the national and international political scene. “While our main focus is on loving God and loving others, whatever their beliefs, it can be useful to have some specific knowledge about where other people are coming from,” he said. “We should also not ignore the fact that there is an element within Islam which is hostile to Western countries and to the Christian faith.” The conferences are open only to church leaders and members recommended by their leaders. However, there is an evening meeting open to the public at each conference venue. Early bird registrations close on June 22. The website is www.meco.zuyouth.com


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: christians; islam; islamicthreat; nz; rop

1 posted on 03/23/2007 2:22:19 AM PDT by Posting
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They better do something besides la la land love and turn the other cheek.


2 posted on 03/23/2007 3:00:28 AM PDT by tkathy
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Praise the Lord. And pass the ammunition.


3 posted on 03/23/2007 3:00:42 AM PDT by jim35 ("...when the lion and the lamb lie down together, ...we'd better damn sure be the lion")
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Here's hoping New Zealand does not have any Hate Crime legislation, or the organizers of this seminar may be facing a similar fate as the preachers from Catch The Fire Ministries in Victoria.

http://catchthefire.com.au/blog/2006/12/19/toil-and-trouble/
4 posted on 03/23/2007 3:03:14 AM PDT by Fred Nerks (Fair Dinkum Aussie.)
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if you are a good muslim, you're a bad citizen of the west, IF you're a bad muslim, you're a good citizen of the west. the 'good' muslims in auckland took over my church carpark on friday nights, right when we have our own Mass and eucharist adoration, so their is not enough space for us to park in our own carpark. they waltz in as if they own the place, in their minds they do! the linguini spined church officials think appeasement is the best approach, also the university is also paying for a mosque to be built. The muslim population jumped by bout 50% in the last 5 years, according to the census data.


5 posted on 03/23/2007 3:19:50 AM PDT by rogernz
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We (infidels) ran out of cheeks.


6 posted on 03/23/2007 3:42:16 AM PDT by Posting
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Praise the Lord. And pass the ammunition. How would you want it? fast to go?
7 posted on 03/23/2007 3:43:30 AM PDT by Posting
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To: rogernz
if you are a good muslim, you're a bad citizen of the west, IF you're a bad muslim, you're a good citizen of the west. the 'good' muslims in auckland took over my church carpark on friday nights, right when we have our own Mass and eucharist adoration, so their is not enough space for us to park in our own carpark. they waltz in as if they own the place, in their minds they do! the linguini spined church officials think appeasement is the best approach, also the university is also paying for a mosque to be built. The muslim population jumped by bout 50% in the last 5 years, according to the census data.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/1762002/posts Almost all you need to know about Arab Muslim - 'Religion of peace', To be a "good" Muslim

8 posted on 03/23/2007 3:49:56 AM PDT by Posting
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