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In Secret, Polygamy Follows Africans to New York
The New York Times ^ | March 23, 2007 | NINA BERNSTEIN

Posted on 03/23/2007 1:16:42 AM PDT by Cincinna

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To: Fairview

Given the choice between the Duke and the Dolphin, I would always pick the Duke.


41 posted on 03/23/2007 12:24:24 PM PDT by Cincinna (HILLARY & HER HINO "We are going to take things away from you for the Common Good")
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To: Cincinna

This country had damn well better decide who and what the hell it is and decide once and for all that there is no room here for people who are totally unlike us and have completely different value systems.


42 posted on 03/23/2007 12:27:16 PM PDT by Leftism is Mentally Deranged
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To: Cincinna

In Utah, it's polygamy. In Greenwich Village, it's an alternative lifestyle.


43 posted on 03/23/2007 12:30:26 PM PDT by AmishDude (It doesn't matter whom you vote for. It matters who takes office.)
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To: kalee

IIRC, Islam actually has some constraints on multiple wives (I know, I know). I think Mohammed specifically requires the husband be able to afford each wife having a separate household. But I guess most don't listen after hearing "up to 4 wives".


44 posted on 03/23/2007 12:32:58 PM PDT by AmishDude (It doesn't matter whom you vote for. It matters who takes office.)
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To: Nathan Zachary

That has to the scam and the plan. Just like that town of "Travelers" in South Carolina. Their legal names are mostly the same. Lots of John Murphys there. But they have nicknames for each other

http://72.14.209.104/search?q=cache:TanToTK10eUJ:www.travellersrest.org/Controversy990601.htm+Murphy+travellers+scam&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=3&gl=us


45 posted on 03/23/2007 1:06:06 PM PDT by dennisw ("What one man can do, another can do" -- The Edge)
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To: Cincinna
Equality: Polygamy in Paris
Have we really achieved equality between the sexes?
The French government wants to outlaw polygamy to protect the estimated 140,000 people living in polygamous families - but it is tearing apart established families in the process. Edward Stourton reports.

There are an estimated 140,000 people living in France in polygamous families. That extraordinary statistic is a consequence of French immigration and employment policies in the late 1960s and early 1970s.

It was a period of industrial unrest in the French public sector, and the government encouraged men from Mali, Senegal, Cameroon and Togo to come and clean the streets and empty the dustbins. Many of them came from polygamous cultures, and they brought their families with them.

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We accept the French for how they are, I would like them to accept the way we live.
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Gundu Sogouna
For years polygamy was tolerated as an necessary oddity, but in 1993, the right wing French politician Charles Pasqua pushed through a law outlawing the institution.

Initially no one paid it too much attention, but the French authorities are now cracking down hard on what they regard as an affront to women's rights.

Under the legislation polygamous families must split up or lose their livelihoods - men who refuse to "de-cohabit" lose their work permits.

Catastrophic consequences

France: a clash of cultures
It means uncertainty and financial hardship for almost all the families involved. Sometimes the consequences for one half of the family can be catastrophic. Gundu Sogouna and her eight children ended up living in a squat in an abandoned building in the suburbs.

"I never thought I would end up living in these conditions," she said. "We accept the French for how they are, I would like them to accept the way we live."

Even more fundamentally, it means the break-up of families who have been living happily according their own cultural beliefs.

I asked one polygamous husband and father, Toumani Dairra, whether he would be willing to divorce. "Never, even if they had a knife and cut off my head - never!"

This began as a story about the right to equality - it became one about a conflict between two sets of rights; the rights of women, and those of minorities.


46 posted on 03/23/2007 1:09:05 PM PDT by dennisw ("What one man can do, another can do" -- The Edge)
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To: Cincinna
The truth behind the fiery deaths of Mali immigrants in NY.

Why did we let all those people and children in to America in the first place? It was listed that the men were "Islamic scholars". Haven't we had enough problems with such vermin already?


47 posted on 03/23/2007 1:13:27 PM PDT by montag813
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To: Vaquero
looking on with interest.......

Put your flame suit on. There are a small bunch of sensitive Mittheads on this forum.

48 posted on 03/23/2007 1:16:16 PM PDT by montag813
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To: mborman
Please. Not Mitts and no Rudys! Freds are okay. agreed....
49 posted on 03/23/2007 1:16:32 PM PDT by Vaquero (" an armed society is a polite society" Heinlein "MOLON LABE!" Leonidas of Sparta)
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To: Cincinna
“It’s difficult, but one accepts it because it’s our religion,” said Doussou Traoré, 52, president of an association of Malian women in New York, who married an older man with two other wives who remain in Mali. “Our mothers accepted it. Our grandmothers accepted it. Why not us?”

Because a civilized nation spits on your sick cult. If you don't like it then stay the hell out of our country.

50 posted on 03/23/2007 1:19:00 PM PDT by montag813
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To: montag813

Meh! Bring 'em on.

If I can deal with the flack from my Rudy bashing I can deal with the Mittheads.....


51 posted on 03/23/2007 1:19:20 PM PDT by Vaquero (" an armed society is a polite society" Heinlein "MOLON LABE!" Leonidas of Sparta)
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To: Cincinna
They said their participation was dictated by an African culture of female subjugation and linked polygamy to female genital cutting and domestic violence.

Why does the article keep calling this African? It's just Muslims. Christian Africans don't do this, do they?

52 posted on 03/23/2007 1:20:09 PM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: Alberta's Child
There's no reason to expect these people to abide by our marital laws when we never expected them to abide by our immigration laws.

Excellent! You hit the bullseye.

53 posted on 03/23/2007 1:22:11 PM PDT by Free ThinkerNY ((((Truth shall set you free))))
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