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Evangelicals and the GOP: A Clean Divorce Coming
Stratfor ^ | 03.22.2007 | Bart Mongoven

Posted on 03/22/2007 11:15:39 PM PDT by AdmSmith

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To: AdmSmith

This Stratfor piece is one of those articles meant to shape public opinion rather than reflect it; that reveals more about the wishes of its author, Bart Mongoven, than it does those of "evangelicals." Those who know evangelicals first hand, or are evangelicals, and who know what the word "evangelical" means, also know that evangelicals favor choice over force. They also know that there is no necessary equating of conservative religion and conservative politics. Some ten million evangelicals voted for Al Gore in 2000 (see here: http://slate.msn.com/id/2089641/

It is distressing that Stratfor, a think tank that advises our leaders and the public on geo-political-religious affairs, such as Shiias vs. Sunnis in Iraq, can only provide a caricaturish description of evangelicals. This casts doubt on the credibility of Startfor to deal with religious issues at all. The sociologically ignorant and the religiously unmusical might try reading The Truth about Conservative Christians by liberal sociologists Andrew Greeley and Michael Hout before they pop off as experts about evangelical Christians.

All I can glean from this article is that Bart Mongoven is wishing for a divorce of evangelicals, whoever they are, from the Republican Party and an ascendence of libertarians. More wishful thinking than good analysis.


201 posted on 03/24/2007 11:40:56 PM PDT by WayneLusvardi (It's more complex than it might seem)
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To: dan1123

Imagine if mainline Protestant denominations purchased ABC, or if the Catholic church bought NBC back in the 60s. I think it would have accomplished a lot more than the political lobbying done.


NBC with Bishop Sheen...... Nothing but Catholics... What a Winner but we would have never met mother Angelica and EWTN


202 posted on 03/24/2007 11:47:48 PM PDT by philly-d-kidder (Democratic party is the Party of Anti Americanism,Anti Catholicism and the Culture of Death)
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To: George W. Bush
Unlike others here who only want full info on candidates they oppose, I do think we need to know everything about all our candidates.

Agreed. I think Duncan Hunter is excellent on many issues and is probably my third choice. However, I say that knowing full well that on Fiscal Conservatism Hunter is no Ron Paul, he's not even (nearly) as good as Tom Tancredo; and the National Debt is only getting worse. Still, I would consider him my third choice, mainly because the current "front runners" are so awful.

203 posted on 03/25/2007 3:46:51 AM PDT by OrthodoxPresbyterian (We are Unworthy Servants; We have only done Our Duty -- Luke 17:10)
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To: joesbucks
Being conservative an Christian are not mutually exclusive. I'm a Christian conservative. If I were just conservative, I could be for the 2nd Amendment and wouldn't care about abortion or sodomy unless I had some objection from a secular point of view. I am a conservative and also a Christian so I can be against abortion for religious views and also against taxes and gun control for whatever reason.

Having said that, Jesus told His followers to sell their cloaks and get a sword in Mathew because He knew His followers would be persecuted. When people say "What would Jesus Do", that is important for 99% of the actions that Jesus did to be emulated by His followers. Jesus however was born to die. His purpose in coming to Earth was to die on the cross. It wasn't to teach people, or heal the sick or perform other miracles, even though He did all those things. His purpose was to die. He doesn't expect us to just allow ourselves and our families to be slaughtered like sheep. We should be willing to give up our lives for the cause of Christ, but unlike the muzzies, it isn't required. The student that was asked at Columbine if she believed in Christ, gave her life willingly knowing the answer the killer was looking for was "no". That answer would not have precluded her from having a Glock in her purse and as she was saying "Praise the Lord", emptying a 15 round clip in the guy.

204 posted on 03/25/2007 4:06:18 PM PDT by chuckles
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To: AdmSmith

I am an atheist and if the country club party hacks put Julie-Annie up, I vote with my feet...




205 posted on 03/25/2007 4:12:21 PM PDT by Sir Francis Dashwood (LET'S ROLL!)
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To: napscoordinator

Newt's in there, you just missed it.


206 posted on 03/25/2007 8:44:02 PM PDT by chuckles
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To: SJackson
"That’s moonbat stuff."

No. I have my share of problems, but I can tell you I won't sit before Jesus at the judgment and have to answer to Him for selecting a pro-choice candidate over a pro-life one.
207 posted on 03/26/2007 5:23:48 AM PDT by Preachin' (Enoch's testimony was that he pleased God: Why are we still here?)
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To: Preachin'
No. I have my share of problems, but I can tell you I won't sit before Jesus at the judgment and have to answer to Him for selecting a pro-choice candidate over a pro-life one.

These were the Constitution Party issues mentioned.

Constitution is based on the Gospel of Jesus Christ

we will continue to provide asylum for non-Christians

An immediate withdrawal from Iraq?

The dems can give you that.

Recovery of America’s sovereign land in Panama?

Yes, other than the Iraq withdrawl which you can rationally support, imo that's moonbat stuff. And none of those issues are related to abortion.

208 posted on 03/26/2007 11:11:50 AM PDT by SJackson (are you aware of...any listening devices in the Oval Office of the President?, Fred Thompson)
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To: Young Scholar
The problem is implementation - Social Conservatives seem to want to use the power of govt to implement their views - even to the point of forcing behavior on people - staying married through the power of govt, etc and to fiscal conservatives and libertarian conservatives this is an anathema.

In other words, to fiscal conservatives and libertarian conservatives the social conservatives are like the welfare state loving liberals - just that they want to spend the money of the state and use the power of the state for different causes.

In view of that I don't see this coalition lasting much longer.

209 posted on 03/26/2007 12:43:18 PM PDT by Longinus ("Whom did it benefit". (Cui Bono Fuerit) Longinus Cassius Roman conspirator & general (? - 42 BC))
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To: SJackson
"Yes, other than the Iraq withdrawl which you can rationally support, imo that's moonbat stuff. And none of those issues are related to abortion."

How about the right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness?

It's obvious that there are right things to do for America, and Rudy ain't it. If he wants to toss my principles out of the party, I'll find someone else who will accept me.
210 posted on 03/27/2007 3:04:13 AM PDT by Preachin' (Enoch's testimony was that he pleased God: Why are we still here?)
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