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Baptist: Giuliani won't get our votes
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| 3/22/07
| Yonat Shimron
Posted on 03/22/2007 4:24:28 PM PDT by pissant
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To: dmw
haven't you heard already that the evangelicals are committed to voting for Rudy? ..there are always some Tony Campolo types who will support any leftist cause...
Campolo BTW was Clinton's "spiritual adviser" during the Impeachment...
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posted on
03/22/2007 5:05:52 PM PDT
by
WalterSkinner
( ..when there is any conflict between God and Caesar -- guess who loses?)
To: ReleaseTheHounds
Yes, but look at that pristine only married once record! And let's not forget that Ronald Reagan had a broken marriange and was rather estranged from his son -- he turned out to be an OK president, didn't he? I certainly am not one to hold one's past against them. Unless they're still living that way today. Or they just have plain bad ideas, just different bad ideas than they used to.
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posted on
03/22/2007 5:05:58 PM PDT
by
Terriergal
("I am ashamed that women are so simple To offer war where they should kneel for peace," Shakespeare)
To: Politicalmom
Neither have I. But neither have I ruled it out. That's quite a bit above my pay grade. Pretty soon we're all going to have eaten each other up and we'll end up with Hillary or some other horrible result. Is that what we want?
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posted on
03/22/2007 5:05:59 PM PDT
by
Past Your Eyes
(Some people are too stupid to be ashamed.)
To: JFC
Southern Baptist have a way with JUDGING Others! I do not like that about them.............. Is that a judgement?
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posted on
03/22/2007 5:06:19 PM PDT
by
Terriergal
("I am ashamed that women are so simple To offer war where they should kneel for peace," Shakespeare)
To: HitmanLV
but the idea that two marriages is ok, but three is one too much, strikes me as strange, silly, and unintentionally comical. I dunno. Every time someone screws up a big decision like that it ups the ante that they'd be bad at making other big decisions... they haven't learned from their mistakes.
Granted, he may only be bad at making relationship decisions. However relationships do play a big part in our day to day worklife too so it's not like that has no impact.
I still don't like some of his ideas, wonderfully as he may have handled 911.
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posted on
03/22/2007 5:08:09 PM PDT
by
Terriergal
("I am ashamed that women are so simple To offer war where they should kneel for peace," Shakespeare)
To: WalterSkinner
You are so right. I have been going to a large SBC since 1983 and I am very proud of our minister who is teaching word for word from the Bible. Why is that so hard for other denominations to do that? We have had the same minister since the late 1970's.
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posted on
03/22/2007 5:08:57 PM PDT
by
MamaB
To: dmw
Yep, according to the Rudybots, the evangelical vote is locked up. No reason to believe this article. If the Rudybots say it--we gotta believe it!Another factor working against an evangelical preferred GOP nominee is the broad dissatisfaction in the general electorate, and among many in the GOP, of the latest evangelical seal-of-approval nominee, Dubya.
He was (and is) their baby and he has fallen flat on his arse, unable to make a coherent statement, a cogent argument, or a persuasive point. He has fallen and can't get up. I don't blame folks for being alienated by the evangelicals' taste in leaders, given they delivered us a president who many, many people are dissatisfied with.
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posted on
03/22/2007 5:09:06 PM PDT
by
HitmanLV
("If at first you don't succeed, keep on sucking until you do suck seed." - Jerry 'Curly' Howard)
To: traditional1
yes, in your opinion. Show me a article from a mainstream publication or a serious conservative one (lib blogs don't count) that accuse Hunter of ANY wrongdoing.
Only one reaganite in the race. I will support him as he climbs his way to the top tier. Fred's a decent fellow, don't get me wrong. I won't care if he joins the fracas.
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posted on
03/22/2007 5:10:14 PM PDT
by
pissant
(http://www.gohunter08.com/)
To: Neu Pragmatist
They just won't vote , it's plain and simple. I suspect many gun owners will sit it out as well. I'm kinda feeling that way myself. We're approaching a critical mass or something where we have to stop thinking pragmatically and act according to principle, or these incrementalists will never get the point that they're headed the wrong way.
(LIBERALS : -- ROMNEY DEFEATS THEM -- RUDY GUNBANDIANI EMBRACES THEM !)
lol that reminds me of a quote I heard (actually on Prairie Home Companion's joke night): "People say that democrats don't stand for anything... that's not true - we do stand for anything!"
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posted on
03/22/2007 5:10:57 PM PDT
by
Terriergal
("I am ashamed that women are so simple To offer war where they should kneel for peace," Shakespeare)
To: MamaB
We have had the same minister since the late 1970's. ..I love hearing things like this--God bless you and your church...
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posted on
03/22/2007 5:11:15 PM PDT
by
WalterSkinner
( ..when there is any conflict between God and Caesar -- guess who loses?)
To: pissant
This is a conservative website.Well it used to be a conservative website. I'm surprised that the Rubybots haven't declared victory over Jim Robinson and renamed this place "RudyWorld."
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posted on
03/22/2007 5:12:04 PM PDT
by
politicalwit
(Family values don't stop at the border...but Federal laws do.)
To: HitmanLV
His level of significance reminds me of the fall of that Haggard fellow, the guy who the MSM insisted was so famous despite the fact that nobody seemed to know much about him. These people are well- known among evangelicals. Both of them. Anyway, Land seems to be very far removed in persona from the flambuoyant Haggard.
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posted on
03/22/2007 5:12:06 PM PDT
by
Terriergal
("I am ashamed that women are so simple To offer war where they should kneel for peace," Shakespeare)
To: HitmanLV
Sometimes the reason for the divorce has to do with the other person in the relationship. Sometimes. So why did he pick another loser?
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posted on
03/22/2007 5:12:37 PM PDT
by
Terriergal
("I am ashamed that women are so simple To offer war where they should kneel for peace," Shakespeare)
To: Terriergal
Well, the problem with marriage and divorce is that there are two parties involved.
A person can be a good, decent spouse, and their husband or bride may come home one day and tell them that they met someone else, the sex is much better, etc etc. They want out.
That may, or may not, have much to do with the person getting dumped on.
This can happen to anyone - a person can be a wonderfully compatible spouse for years, and then get all loosey goosey on you if the catalyst is there. Divorce is not necessarily a stern indictment of both spouses.
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posted on
03/22/2007 5:12:39 PM PDT
by
HitmanLV
("If at first you don't succeed, keep on sucking until you do suck seed." - Jerry 'Curly' Howard)
To: pissant
No problem with promoting conservativism.
Obsessing over one candidate this early on......just plain weird.
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posted on
03/22/2007 5:12:41 PM PDT
by
capt. norm
(Be thankful we're not getting all the government we're paying for.)
To: Terriergal
I never heard of them, and most people haven't. I guess they are rock stars in the evangelical movement. If that is the case, at least in Haggard's case, they need better taste in rock stars.
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posted on
03/22/2007 5:14:13 PM PDT
by
HitmanLV
("If at first you don't succeed, keep on sucking until you do suck seed." - Jerry 'Curly' Howard)
To: capt. norm
If you were half as much anti-Hillary as your are anti-Rudy I think the Anti-Hillary thing is assumed around here. It's not worth discussing at length, see.
I'm against, ya know, *Satan* but I spend more time trying to expose unfaithful shepherds who claim to be Christian but lead the church away from the truth. Get it?
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posted on
03/22/2007 5:14:18 PM PDT
by
Terriergal
("I am ashamed that women are so simple To offer war where they should kneel for peace," Shakespeare)
To: capt. norm; Jim Robinson
I wouldn't even bother if I did not see 15 articles each day promoting him here. Jimrob is getting some serious heartburn, I'm sure. LOL
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posted on
03/22/2007 5:15:07 PM PDT
by
pissant
(http://www.gohunter08.com/)
To: Politicalmom
I see no signs of repentance. Repentance? What's that? Sounds like a big theological word they don't use in today's churches anymore. :-\
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posted on
03/22/2007 5:15:42 PM PDT
by
Terriergal
("I am ashamed that women are so simple To offer war where they should kneel for peace," Shakespeare)
To: WalterSkinner; JFC
But don't besmirch all Southern Baptists--all 16 Million of them. Yeah, that would be... judgemental.
If you have a problem with using the Bible as the standard--then that is another, deeper spiritual issue...
totally agree.
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posted on
03/22/2007 5:16:36 PM PDT
by
Terriergal
("I am ashamed that women are so simple To offer war where they should kneel for peace," Shakespeare)
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