If a liberal is elected president, whether Republican or Democrat, I have lost. The only way I have to "fight for the positions I want to see implemented" is by getting a person who agrees with those positions elected.
You obviously feel differently and you can see "victory" in a liberal president who will work against most of your positions, as long as the liberal has an "R" after their name.
This is the thrust of the pro-Rudy posters, I can except this. What I don't understand is why you are on FR. FR is a conservative forum, not a Republican forum. The ridiculous logical gymnastics that Rudy supporters use to try and convince FReepers that Rudy is really not a liberal are not only disingenuous but are tiring. Give it up. Spend your time campaigning for the liberal of your choice. Post on a liberal forum. Leave us conservatives to discuss how we will get a conservative into office.
no you haven't. If Rudy were elected, and Ted Olson is sitting there banging away selecting federal judges - we're fine.