[Northern Alliance]

I can't stand that Gretchen. She has absolutely no chemistry with the two guys and comes across as a doofus. Sometimes she even sounds as if she's lecturing them.

Perfect summation of the problem with her. I think she is also in a different world from Steve and Brian (and us!) regarding social values, religious values, and political opinion and affiliation.

The show now is at the other end of the spectrum from a few years ago when the chemistry between Steve, Brian, and E.D. was the best I ever saw on TV. Actually Kiran would have been a great replacement for E.D.

[Guenevere]

NA...I am finding Gretchen to be more conservative than Kiran ever was....

..in fact, I thought Kiran quite liberal.

I think Gretchen is more relaxed now and gets on well with Steve and Brian.