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To: xcamel; NicknamedBob; spunkets; secret garden; Cyber Liberty; patton
There is a minute difference between C12 and C14, and the two have slightly different ratios in wood (plant life) and atmospheric ratios, but :fossil fuel" IS plant life-derived (so we are told by classic chemistry!) but that has no difference in the emissions of burning old plant life or new plant life ...

UNLESS you consider petroleum based oils are NOT from "plant-life" derivatives, in which case they come from ???? (underground biologics and microscopic (non-plant) bacteria and from the natural gases and rock... in which case NEW oil and natural gas IS being formed all the time and we DON'T have a oil-source crisis after all...)
255 posted on 03/22/2007 7:35:52 PM PDT by Robert A Cook PE (I can only donate monthly, but Hillary's ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE

And that's why he never got anything higher than a C in science all through college.


270 posted on 03/22/2007 8:27:31 PM PDT by secret garden (Dubiety reigns here)
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE

Now, Robert, don't confuse the discussion, by bringing up abiotic oil...LOL


281 posted on 03/22/2007 9:09:26 PM PDT by patton (ETS? Nihil curo de ista tua stulta superstitione.)
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE

I am sooo relieved that you cleared that up for me....the divinity school flunkie had me scared.


283 posted on 03/22/2007 9:55:11 PM PDT by tioga
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE
"There is a minute difference between C12 and C14, and the two have slightly different ratios in wood (plant life) and atmospheric ratios, but :fossil fuel" IS plant life-derived (so we are told by classic chemistry!) but that has no difference in the emissions of burning old plant life or new plant life ... "

The isotope that's important is the stable isotope 13C. 12C is preferentially incorporated into vegitation, because the 13C/oxygen bond is slightly stronger, than the 12C/O bond. That results in an increased isotopic ratio of 13C/12C in the atmosphere, over the general natural abundance ratio. See #284. There's some corrections in 2 posts below it, a missing H for 3H...

" UNLESS you consider petroleum based oils are NOT from "plant-life" derivatives, in which case they come from ?"

14C would be irrelevant in this case, because the oil is millions of years old, and the half life of 14C i ~5700yrs.

289 posted on 03/24/2007 12:06:16 PM PDT by spunkets ("Freedom is about authority", Rudy Giuliani, gun grabber)
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