[JeffAtlanta]

I quote the Constitution, the legislation for ratifying the Amendments, and the guys that actually WROTE them. You counter with some judge trying to change the plain meaning of what I just copied.

All moot points unless you can get in front of the SCOTUS and convince them. The SCOTUS has ruled and the federal and state governments have governed for over 200 years that the constitution does not apply bill of rights protections to the States.

You can browbeat freepers all you want with quote mining, but what good does that do, even if you convince them? You still must get the SCOTUS to agree and that has been my point all along.

[El Gato]

The SCOTUS has ruled and the federal and state governments have governed for over 200 years that the constitution does not apply bill of rights protections to the States.

Except when it does via the 14th amendment. They only use the "due process clause" to maintain the legal fiction that they are not over ruling earlier Courts, but of course they are.