[Just sayin]

First of all, the second amendment (whatever it means) only applies to the federal government.

First of all, why does the Second ammendment say "the right of the people" instead of "the right of the federal government" or 'the right of the several states". Are you saying the framers didn't choose language carefully?

Also, would you then be saying that nuclear weapons treaties are unconstitutional? That would be an infringement upon our government's right to keep and bare arms then wouldn't it? AN unconstitutional law passed by congress and signed into law by the Executive right?

Sorry RP, but that just defies common sense.

Have you ever heard of the unwritten understood "you"? I would offer to you that the Bill of Rights was so specifically an individual rights issue that the 'Individual' is understood in front of the Bill of Rights in the same way as 'you'.

[robertpaulsen]

"Are you saying the framers didn't choose language carefully?"

They DID choose it carefully. Which makes me wonder why you're ignoring what they wrote.

Do you realize what the second amendment says? Do you think it says, "The right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed"? That's certainly all you're focused on and talking about.

Anyways, the courts have ruled that it protects the right of the people to keep and bear arms as part of a state Militia from federal infringement.