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To: THEUPMAN
"but that right can be infringed upon if I live below the tree line?"

By your state, if it doesn't violate the state constitution, yes.

Oh, and I prefer the term "reasonably regulated given a compelling state interest" instead of "infringed".

508 posted on 03/22/2007 1:12:32 PM PDT by robertpaulsen
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To: robertpaulsen

"but that right can be infringed upon if I live below the tree line?"

By your state, if it doesn't violate the state constitution, yes.

Oh, and I prefer the term "reasonably regulated given a compelling state interest" instead of "infringed".

bobby, bobby... Neither the state nor federal Constitutions may violate the rights of the individual (except in certain, VERY limited circumstances and after following due process of law, such as criminal or civil matters), no matter WHAT you prefer to call such violations. There can be NO "compelling state interest" in violating the right to keep and bear arms, EVER. The Founders, NOT being the fools you would like others to think they were, would NOT forbid the central government to violate rights, yet permit the states to do the same thing. That position is utterly absurd on the face of it. If we have rights (and we DO), we have them "above the tree line" or in mid-town Manhattan. There can be NO differentiation or dimunation of a RIGHT by government, ever. (Excepting ONLY as noted above.) Even the RIGHT to self-medicate, which you AGREE we each have, doesn't need to necessarily be "protected" by government, but MUST BE RESPECTED by government, period. The individual RIGHT to keep and bear arms must at all times and in all places be RESPECTED BY ALL LEVELS OF GOVERNMENT. LOCAL governments may put reasonable restrictions on where and during what hours we may discharge weapons in NON-EMERGENCY situations, but that is all.

On the other hand, we are liable to explain ourselves in the event we must shoot someone in the course of defending ourselves, to ensure that it's a righteous shoot. And in a self-medication case, we would surely be liable for damages we might cause by being impaired while operationg vehicles or machinery of any sort. Even criminally liable, in some cases.


539 posted on 03/22/2007 5:07:12 PM PDT by dcwusmc (We need to make government so small that it can be drowned in a bathtub.)
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To: robertpaulsen

Oh, and I prefer the term "reasonably regulated given a compelling state interest" instead of "infringed".



Yup ...... I suppose that word really gets in your way .....


584 posted on 03/23/2007 4:32:38 AM PDT by THEUPMAN (####### comment deleted by moderator)
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To: robertpaulsen
Oh, and I prefer the term "reasonably regulated given a compelling state interest" instead of "infringed".

Cut four fingers off of your right hand and then count the remaining digit and you will know how many people give a damn about your opinion about how the Constitution should be rewritten.

586 posted on 03/23/2007 5:12:16 AM PDT by Eaker (You were given the choice between war & dishonor. You chose dishonor & you will have war. -Churchill)
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