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More Murtha Than Thou [Duncan Hunter's Iraq withdrawal plan]
Opinion Journal (WSJ) political diary ^ | 3/20/07 | Brendan Miniter

Posted on 03/20/2007 2:25:05 PM PDT by M. Thatcher

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To: M. Thatcher

This is a shameless hit piece that is full of BS! Hunter's only withdrawal plan is complete victory against the Islamo-nazis!


41 posted on 03/20/2007 5:10:18 PM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner ("Si vis pacem para bellum")
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner

QED.


42 posted on 03/20/2007 5:12:05 PM PDT by M. Thatcher
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To: cripplecreek
You seem quite happy promoting something you know is a lie

What have I promoted? Your reply is dishonest.
I have highlighted the ugly, defensive illogical zealots that have been given free reign here.

At least my principles are intact.

Good luck with that.

43 posted on 03/20/2007 5:14:00 PM PDT by PRND21
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To: PRND21
I have highlighted the ugly, defensive illogical zealots that have been given free reign here.

Then you know who to take it up with.
44 posted on 03/20/2007 5:16:43 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Peace without victory is a temporary illusion.)
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To: cripplecreek
Then you know who to take it up with.

I'm not the complainer type...you?

You should change your tagline to:
Elections without victory is a temporary illusion.

45 posted on 03/20/2007 5:28:04 PM PDT by PRND21
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To: M. Thatcher
While we're on the subject of the Iraq war I have a question I can't get any Rudy supporters to answer.

Sen. Vitter recently endorsed Rudy and is frequently used as an example of conservative support for Giuliani. Some have even suggested he is a potential running mate.

Vitter has publicly stated that if the surge has not worked by the end of the summer Congress should begin discussing withdrawal and has called the surge the "last chance".

Is that position compatible with the Giuliani campaign?

46 posted on 03/20/2007 5:40:10 PM PDT by garv (Conservatism in '08 www.draftnewt.org)
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To: garv

This is a Hunter thread. I think it'd be rude to start yet another Rudy flame war here. There are plenty of other available threads!


47 posted on 03/20/2007 5:46:05 PM PDT by M. Thatcher
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To: M. Thatcher

Flame war? All I did was ask a question, but as you wish.


48 posted on 03/20/2007 5:51:36 PM PDT by garv (Conservatism in '08 www.draftnewt.org)
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To: garv

For what it's worth, I think you got the answer you were looking for.


49 posted on 03/20/2007 5:59:37 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Peace without victory is a temporary illusion.)
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To: M. Thatcher

In my nearly 6 years here at FR, I'm hard pressed to find another thread that is as much bull$hit as this. Though with the quality of articles being posted by the Rudy crowd, rest assured, this distinction will not last very long.


50 posted on 03/20/2007 6:27:03 PM PDT by jmc813 (The 2nd Amendment is NOT a "social conservative" issue.)
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To: pissant

"It's a PLAN FOR HOW TO GET THEM ALL TRAINED PROPERLY. You must be a blithering Rudy/MCCain rump boy if you think this stupidly."

I can not argue with you on this at all. Hunter's plan is a strategy to win, and after we win, why would the troops need to stay? It is the best way out of Iraq, by not leaving until Iraqis are trained and ready for us to leave.

This article is nothing but spin.


51 posted on 03/20/2007 6:38:11 PM PDT by mjaneangels@aolcom ("nor prohibiting the free exercise thereof.")
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To: PRND21

What are your thoughts on Fred Thompson?


52 posted on 03/20/2007 6:44:21 PM PDT by jmc813 (The 2nd Amendment is NOT a "social conservative" issue.)
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Duncan Hunter is about the strongest supporter our troops have in Washington. An attack like this on him is an attack on the troops, all for a political agenda.

The win the white house at any cost crowd should be very proud of themselves. If they haven't managed to top the democrats, they've managed to match them.


53 posted on 03/20/2007 6:45:12 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Peace without victory is a temporary illusion.)
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To: JHBowden

"Now the Hunter platform has surrender plans to go with big government and protectionism."

Finishing a job is not surrendering.


54 posted on 03/20/2007 6:47:46 PM PDT by mjaneangels@aolcom ("nor prohibiting the free exercise thereof.")
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To: jmc813; Admin Moderator

Is this really what we've come to here?


56 posted on 03/20/2007 6:51:38 PM PDT by M. Thatcher
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To: PRND21

"I have highlighted the ugly, defensive illogical zealots that have been given free reign here."

Illogical. Let's look further at illogical and see who on this forum is illogical.

I keep reading that Rudy is the only one that can beat Hillary, yet he never polled better than her in the NY Senate race.

I keep hearing that we must support Rudy because he will fight the war on Terror stongly, but he has no real record of fighting the war on terror, except for turning down money from an Arab when tempers were flairing against Arabs.

I keep hearing that Rudy is a conservative although he is for abortion, for taking guns away from honest citizens, for gay unions and he managed to get NY city back to the shape it was in when Ed Koch (Democrat) was mayor. Ed Koch was decent for a Democrat, but all that makes Rudy is a moderate.

I am tired of hearing that I must give up my beliefs to support someone who does not support me.

Oh, and I also hear that Rudy is going to nominate good constructionist judges, but his record is 8 liberals out of 9 nominees.

I can not live with voting for people like this repeatedly. It is time for others to start considering social conservatives and stop trying to convince us that voting for a liberal Republican is somehow better than voting for a liberal Democrat. I am a conservative. I will vote for conservatives.


57 posted on 03/20/2007 6:58:12 PM PDT by mjaneangels@aolcom ("nor prohibiting the free exercise thereof.")
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To: PRND21

"Elections without victory is a temporary illusion."

Depends on what we win.

If all we win is an election, we have lost everything.


58 posted on 03/20/2007 7:00:14 PM PDT by mjaneangels@aolcom ("nor prohibiting the free exercise thereof.")
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To: M. Thatcher

You certainly helped the process along.


59 posted on 03/20/2007 7:05:16 PM PDT by streetpreacher (What if you're wrong?)
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To: M. Thatcher
Is this really what we've come to here?

Chill out. The majority the pings going out to this list would be on BS articles against President Bush.

I certainly have my differences with the guy, but I'm repulsed by the BS articles which show up about him every day. I'll do my best to stay as impartial as possible. Now join the list.

60 posted on 03/20/2007 7:14:26 PM PDT by jmc813 (The 2nd Amendment is NOT a "social conservative" issue.)
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