[Old Landmarks]

You spouted some more nonsense because you know I pointed out your strawman attack. You knew good and well that my post was about public schools, that is, my opinion that they should be closed in favor of privatization and parental choice. Don't give me the hobby horse baloney.

Since you seem to be bent out of shape that someone would oppose the big centralized government public schools, you must want to control those who would be adamantly against your precious big government public school monopoly. You even gave an emotional all caps evil public schools highlight. I think you do favor public schools due to the presence your immense overreaction.

By all means?
You do wear it on your sleeve and you are trying to get cute, so take a hike sonny, until you grow up.

[Gumlegs]

As I said before, go to bed.

[Gumlegs]

You spouted some more nonsense because you know I pointed out your strawman attack.

Here's the post with the alleged strawmen you're referring to. Tomorrow morning (or when you've sobered up), point them out.

To: Old Landmarks; tacticalogic

Okay. I read your post. It's most unimpressive.

If you are going to teach in a government school, you have to stick to godlessness. You cannot mention God or anything from the traditional biblical perspective that has served as the underpinning of American civilization for four hundred years.

And in a government school, whose version of which religion should govern the science classes? Or how about Math class? You know, don't you, that the zero is a Muslim invention? It might be interesting if Muslim teachers decided to teach the Koranic version of science, or if Hindu teachers decided to make sure the curriculum didn't contradict the Vedas.

For the entire history of the country until quite recently you could mention God and refer directly to biblical principles concerning the origins of man because that was the kind of schools that communities "freely" chose to create since the beginning of this country.

And if communities "freely" choose to teach that down is up, you're okay with that, right?

This is no longer the case, for you must now lead children to believe that science has proven that the only reasonable explanation for their existence must be given by naturalistic science, for they are the ultimate holders of all truth about past events that they did not observe or test and the Bible is merely a book of nonsense.

I don't know whether this is ignorance or lies. Either way, it's wrong. Science is about naturalistic explanations, but as yet there is not scientifically accepted theory of origins.

Do you really want the Bible in science class? Then you'd better be ready to have scientists subject the Bible to scientific scrutiny. Be careful what you wish for. Should we teach that roses are red because God wanted to remind us of the blood of Jesus? What color were roses before 33AD?

Why is the level of scientific knowledge in the Bible indistinguishable from the average man's knowledge of science when the Bible was written? Why didn't God drop a hint, say, about penicillin?

Kids need to learn science. If you want to live in the tenth century, fine. Enjoy life with the Islamists -- they're your allies in this.

It was only recently that liberals have used the supreme court to overcome the will of most parents in the name of their own secular progressive revisionism.

The only solution is to phase out and discontinue the godless government school monopoly and let the parents choose a private godless school if that is their choice. At the same time the large majority of parents will get to choose a school that they favor as well. Goodbye to the forced godless indoctrination.

Whose version of which God should be in the public schools?

Universal private schooling is a different issue entirely. But it should be noted that those who support schools that willfully distort science end up penalizing primarily their children.

It is the only just solution, because the government schools are a political monopoly as dictated by the NEA and the ACLU playbook.

I'm not here to defend public schools, but I do object to attempts to inject anyone's peculiar reading of the Bible into science.

You post has been addressed. Happy now?

95 posted on 03/20/2007 10:10:13 PM EDT by Gumlegs

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[Gumlegs]

Okay. I read your post. It's most unimpressive.

If you are going to teach in a government school, you have to stick to godlessness. You cannot mention God or anything from the traditional biblical perspective that has served as the underpinning of American civilization for four hundred years.

And in a government school, whose version of which religion should govern the science classes? Or how about Math class? You know, don't you, that the zero is a Muslim invention? It might be interesting if Muslim teachers decided to teach the Koranic version of science, or if Hindu teachers decided to make sure the curriculum didn't contradict the Vedas.

For the entire history of the country until quite recently you could mention God and refer directly to biblical principles concerning the origins of man because that was the kind of schools that communities "freely" chose to create since the beginning of this country.

And if communities "freely" choose to teach that down is up, you're okay with that, right?

This is no longer the case, for you must now lead children to believe that science has proven that the only reasonable explanation for their existence must be given by naturalistic science, for they are the ultimate holders of all truth about past events that they did not observe or test and the Bible is merely a book of nonsense.

I don't know whether this is ignorance or lies. Either way, it's wrong. Science is about naturalistic explanations, but as yet there is not scientifically accepted theory of origins.

Do you really want the Bible in science class? Then you'd better be ready to have scientists subject the Bible to scientific scrutiny. Be careful what you wish for. Should we teach that roses are red because God wanted to remind us of the blood of Jesus? What color were roses before 33AD?

Why is the level of scientific knowledge in the Bible indistinguishable from the average man's knowledge of science when the Bible was written? Why didn't God drop a hint, say, about penicillin?

Kids need to learn science. If you want to live in the tenth century, fine. Enjoy life with the Islamists -- they're your allies in this.

It was only recently that liberals have used the supreme court to overcome the will of most parents in the name of their own secular progressive revisionism.

The only solution is to phase out and discontinue the godless government school monopoly and let the parents choose a private godless school if that is their choice. At the same time the large majority of parents will get to choose a school that they favor as well. Goodbye to the forced godless indoctrination.

Whose version of which God should be in the public schools?

Universal private schooling is a different issue entirely. But it should be noted that those who support schools that willfully distort science end up penalizing primarily their children.

It is the only just solution, because the government schools are a political monopoly as dictated by the NEA and the ACLU playbook.

I'm not here to defend public schools, but I do object to attempts to inject anyone's peculiar reading of the Bible into science.

You post has been addressed. Happy now?