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To: NickatNite2003
It ha *everything* to do with socialism, since it was and is socialismn thqt has destroyed all moral fabic in every European country, or is in the process of it

It wasn't socialism that allowed Moslems to become 10% of the population of France and Norway or buy up huge blocks of London. It wasn't socialism that allowed them in large numbers into Germany either. Socialism didn't encourage the Moslems to bomb trains or burn cars. It wasn't socialists who have created the demographic and violence of Europe today.

To blame all Europes ills on the fact that Christians fought back against Muslim expansion, and that Religion and morality is the cause ofg all strife is as rediculous

It is definately your issues with the english language here that make it difficult to get you to see the essence of what is being said here.

Europe's problems are not because of past wars with Islam, but that history is a symptom of the larger problem. Socialism and Communism are undesireable, but they are not the reason why millions of Muslims are terrorizing Europe now. Socialism and Communism did not cause the importation of cheap North African and Middle Eastern labor to Europe, anymore than it causes the mass importation of illegal Mexican labor to the US.

The probem for the Europeans is not totalitarianism, it is a fifth column in their contries that will not assimilate and is prepared to fight to make you conform to their religion.

Some people, as you are doing, are drawing comparisons to the rise of European Islamists to Hitler and Stalin. Yes, they were totalitarian and Islamists want a Caliphate that seems similar in its controlling nature to Nazi-ism, but it is NOT the growth of Socialism that brought Islam to the shores of Europe. Even if there were no Socialism in France, the lower birth rate of the French and the higher birth rate of the Muslims would amount to the same thing. It is the open-ness of our democracies that allows the masses of immigrants in. It is our wealth that has caused us to become fat and lazy. It is our failure to appreciate our freedom that has emboldened our enemies. It has allowed them to think they are stronger, even when they are fewer in number. It will take a war to convince them otherwise and THAT is why war is inevitable on the European continent. The attacks on the smallest and easiest of minorities are just the first stages of the conflict to come.

236 posted on 03/22/2007 5:20:39 PM PDT by Nachum
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To: Nachum

Bull, it was Socialist policies that allowed and nurtured the mass migration of muslims into Europe. It was
thwe "Humanist justice" that made it criminal to speak against it.


243 posted on 03/22/2007 7:22:23 PM PDT by NickatNite2003 (From the Man from Hope" to the wife who snarls "Abandon All Hope!")
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To: Nachum

And yes, it *is* the sociaslist forces in america that are fighting tooth abnd nail too keep our borders open sieves so that more South American socialist can overwhelm our system.


244 posted on 03/22/2007 7:26:00 PM PDT by NickatNite2003 (From the Man from Hope" to the wife who snarls "Abandon All Hope!")
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To: Nachum

And *why* does France and Europe and Russia *have* such low birth rates? It's not because the women have become that less
fertile..it's because of the zeitgiest that
exists under socialism. Because Socialim
undermines the natural family, it teaches women that
to be wives is to be oppressed. That babies
instead of their natural goal, are only anchors to be turned over to the state as soon as possible...

Much of the socialist/Democrat platforms are the
same. They are anti-life, anti moral,
only the state can say what is moral, instead of the way that it should be, and that the people tell the state what their beliefs and mores are.

Stalin and Hitler destroyed the church & synagoge
tpo make themselves the ultimate arbiters, and Islam
confers godlike status on it's leaders in a hierical
structure to keep their masses in line. and attacking
infidels first byinfiltrating them with their undeserving poor.
for


249 posted on 03/22/2007 7:40:46 PM PDT by NickatNite2003 (From the Man from Hope" to the wife who snarls "Abandon All Hope!")
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