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I completely understand your point of view. Now you know how conservatives in California and in my state of Pennsylvania feel. We can elect Specter, but it is not possible for a social conservative like Santorum to win in my state anymore. I suspect that what is true of PA is also true of OH, VA and MO. Our urban and suburban populations have grown too fast. If it is true for these four states, then a conservative cannot win the general in November. That's the reality we are confronted with, and I have seen absolutely no data to suggest that the trends of 2006 are not continuing. The bleeding in the party must be stopped, and if that means we lose good conservatives like you to get more secular suburban voters then I guess that's what we'll have to do. The Schwartzenegger model is the only one that looks viable at the moment.

That's just it, such a sacrifice is not necessary, yet you falsely believe that is is.

A conservative who appeals to moderates and conservatives is available, yet you dive headfirst into the abyss.

If you believe that a socialist society that strips you of civil rights (foremost would be the second amendment) and condones abortion is the direction that our society needs to continue on the path towards, then you can have that society and the ultimate degradation it is headed towards. It's not for me.

If you seriously think that the damage RINO Rudy will inflict on our society will be undone in your lifetime I believe you are sadly mistaken.

It looks to me like the Republican party has learned the wrong lessons from the 2006 elections, and the proof will begin in around 20 months, IMO.

RINO's like Schwartzenegger are not the answer, and that lesson should be painfully obvious by now. There is a choice out there who can easily defeat Clintoon, and for some reason you and yours cannot seem to stomach that choice. I believe you will be sadly shocked come election day when your RINO savior does not win due to the fact that more conservatives decide not to vote at all than moderates/swing voters who will pull the lever for RINO Rudy.

Time will tell.

If it is true for these four states, then a conservative cannot win the general in November.

Absolute nonsense. Mr. Thompson has much broader appeal than your cited example, specifically to moderates and swing voters.

The bleeding in the party must be stopped, and if that means we lose good conservatives like you to get more secular suburban voters then I guess that's what we'll have to do.

This denotes ignorance in the extreme, and is despicably insulting. I'm a moderate conservative with a distinct secular flair who believes in creation and does not subscribe to any religion. The stereotyping is typical and certainly not unexpected, and you display a lack of understanding of precisely who you really are trying to appeal to. I am a suburbanite as well, I'm in the upper middle class and I have no intention of voting for RINO Rudy.

Also, you're basically admitting that you are turning your back on religious conservatives, in a country which is around %90 Christian, to pander to some must have 'secular' moderate block of voters that you must sway in order to win any future election? That's pretty interesting, and absurd, to say the least, and sounds like projection of Mr. Romney's primary fault, which certainly does not afflict Mr. Thompson.

And the "we'll" sounds like you are part of the Republican leadership that has lost its way and is ditching the one who came to the dance with you. I hope that's not the case for if it is, the Republican party is done and will fade away as other parties have in the past.

In the end, don't try to feed me a shit sandwich and call it roast beef.

Really bad typo.

Replace: " I'm a moderate conservative with a distinct secular flair who believes in creation and does not subscribe to any religion."

With: "I'm a moderate conservative with a distinct secular flair who does not believe in creation and does not subscribe to any religion."