[Wolfie]

The problem is you can't keep out the gangmembers without keeping out the grape pickers and lawn mowers. And that just will not do. Cheap labor is a must, at any cost.

[servantboy777]

We don't need cheap labor (illegally).

Illegals are just that...not only do they break Federal law, they in many cases break state law, not to mention using bogus documents.

What's the penalty for you or I using a fake drivers license, or a forged SS card or birth certificate?

Isn't it like 5 years mandatory prison time for forging or even being in possession of forged governmental documents?

Is it not a CRIME to even falsify an application to gain the documents?

If they want to come here and work...they should cross back over the Rio Grande and come back legally.

A guest worker program WITHOUT a path to citizenship.

Apply, work, go home or reapply.