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Ok guys, what do you think - be nice now

No gas tank or battery
non-flammable propellant
exhaust temp of 0 - 15 degrees below zero make great air conditioner
Fill up at home overnight and make use of off-peak electricity
Good arguement for ramping up nuclear power
Made by Tata motors, India's largest car maker
200 to 300 km range (120-180mi)
Gets us off the habit of giving money
to those who want to kill us


http://www.theaircar.com/
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1636348/posts
posted previously 05/22/2006

1 posted on 03/19/2007 4:47:21 PM PDT by HangnJudge
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Most importantly, it is incredibly cost-efficient to run – according to the designers, it costs less than one Euro per 100Km (about a tenth that of a petrol car).

Oh yeah...
< /sarc >

If you buy into the suspension of disbelief that air compressed to 10,000 psi will be available in every shack in the country, and that the power needed to produce the compressed air is donated free by flying saucers, AND that the 50 gallon bomb does not take up all of the interior room...

68 posted on 03/19/2007 5:33:38 PM PDT by Publius6961 (MSM: Israelis are killed by rockets; Lebanese are killed by Israelis.)
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Made by Tata motors, India's largest car maker

Tata is a VERY large industrial giant in India -- don't diminish them one bit.

78 posted on 03/19/2007 5:43:31 PM PDT by sionnsar
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I was gonna joke that CO2 would perform better than just air but I couldn't put one together.

80 posted on 03/19/2007 5:45:02 PM PDT by I see my hands (_8(|)
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_car


92 posted on 03/19/2007 6:05:16 PM PDT by HangnJudge
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http://science.slashdot.org/science/07/03/19/2128249.shtml

Ongoing discussion on SlashDot


96 posted on 03/19/2007 6:42:59 PM PDT by HangnJudge
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104 posted on 03/19/2007 8:27:25 PM PDT by AntiGuv ("..I do things for political expediency.." - Sen. John McCain on FOX News)
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Would it even run in Fairbanks Alaska in -60F temps? or would it be able to heat the interior without having to haul a trailer with a small gas motor or propane heater just for the heat?


105 posted on 03/19/2007 8:32:59 PM PDT by Eye of Unk
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If it works it works. Great! But let's see how well it works. At first blush, it's range is less than half that of a mid-size internal combustion engine car. That said, we need to find something and this is at least a step in the right direction. The sooner we can tell the Saudis, Hugo Chavez and the rest of OPEC to pound sand, the better.


113 posted on 03/19/2007 9:14:37 PM PDT by Reaganesque
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What happens when some eco freak rear ends me and ruptures the fully charged tank?


115 posted on 03/19/2007 9:34:57 PM PDT by Dawggie
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Sounds perfect for me. Retired, I do short trips mostly with a 200 mile round trip several times a month on which I am in no hurry. I'd buy one but $10 bucks says somehow it'll get buried somewhere in the grave yard. We won't hear much else about it.


118 posted on 03/19/2007 9:53:33 PM PDT by Joan Kerrey (Believe nothing of what you hear or read and half of what you see.)
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Hmmmmm, on second thought wouldn't compressing air raise it's temperature eventually melting ice, then raising sea levels, stranding polar bears, flooding cities and causing the end of the world???? Now I can't sleep.

We've got to stop this project before it's too late. /sarc


119 posted on 03/19/2007 9:57:07 PM PDT by Joan Kerrey (Believe nothing of what you hear or read and half of what you see.)
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You do what you want. As for me...I'm investing heavily in air.


120 posted on 03/19/2007 9:58:20 PM PDT by Joan Kerrey (Believe nothing of what you hear or read and half of what you see.)
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bump for later reading


122 posted on 03/19/2007 10:36:41 PM PDT by Kevmo (Duncan Hunter just needs one Rudy G Campaign Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVBtPIrEleM)
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A 114 cubic inch tank pressurized at 4500psi , if punctured has the potential to fly up to almost a mile. it says "90m3" for storage...I don't know what that means. 90 cubic meters? No way. I tried some conversions, but I'm bad with numbers.

But keep in mind that a bullet going through a tank in a car would cause a lot of headaches for anyone in a couple hundred feet radius.

126 posted on 03/19/2007 11:06:14 PM PDT by Captainpaintball
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Using compressed air to power a motor is not a new idea. It is a relatively straightforward means of energy storage, much like flywheels or batteries. However, liquid air or liquid nitrogen is generally considered to be more capable of providing useful ranges.

From http://web.archive.org/web/20040914232840/http://www.eurekamagazine.co.uk/eureka_editorial/news_reference/FI-Nitrogen.htm
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A car powered by liquid nitrogen may be seen cruising the streets of Bishops Stortford. Cylinder injection of a heat transfer fluid followed by liquefied gas has raised efficiency to a point where fuel costs are comparable with petrol, but, more importantly, without the pollution. As well as solving a problem which has long plagued all Rankine cycle engines, it leads to pollution-free vehicles without the associated cost and weight penalties incurred by batteries.
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in November 2001, the team put its fingers on the breakthrough which Peter Dearman has been exploiting . His engine is two stroke. The induction stroke starts by drawing in the heat exchange fluid, which, in his case, is a conventional mix of ethylene glycol based car anti-freeze and water. Liquid nitrogen is then injected from a separate nozzle (if it was injected simultaneously, the liquid nitrogen would freeze the heat transfer fluid as it entered, blocking the injection port). The heat transfer fluid possesses sufficient heat capacity to both boil the liquid nitrogen and heat it all the way up to ambient temperature. The pressure pushes the piston down and, as it does so, it absorbs more heat from the heat transfer fluid, maintaining its temperature at ambient. At bottom dead centre, the exhaust valve opens, and the expanded nitrogen and heat transfer fluid are allowed to escape. Before reaching the atmosphere, the mixture passes through a separator to recover the heat transfer fluid which then passes through a radiator to warm it up to ambient ready for the next cycle.
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Dearman says that it allows the car to be driven at up to 20mph and achieves a mileage of 1mile/litre. At a cost from Air Products of 10p/litre, this allows the car to achieve a similar fuel cost per mile to that achieved using petrol
...

Note that the power to weight ratio of this type of engine is much lower than any gasoline engine. Also, there are several dangers associated with the handling of cryogenic liquids.


129 posted on 03/20/2007 2:16:38 AM PDT by Mr170IQ
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non-flammable propellant

No, air isn’t flammable - but to run that far it would take a very high pressure air tank. Ever see one blow?

131 posted on 03/20/2007 3:42:27 AM PDT by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink)
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Just so they don't make a car that runs on beer. I don't want to decide between drinking and driving.


141 posted on 03/20/2007 10:23:01 AM PDT by bmwcyle (Freep Fox they drop the ball on GOE)
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Zero pollution? I think not.

How does one go about compressing air in the first place?

Zero emissions vehicle perhaps. Zero pollution, no.

142 posted on 03/20/2007 10:25:59 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (Don't question faith. Don't answer lies.)
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I can see this getting me to work, and maybe get the kids to baseball practice, but will it pull a boat trailer or pass the 18-wheeler on the two lane country highway with ease?
144 posted on 03/20/2007 10:35:56 AM PDT by NavyCanDo
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HEHEHE....finally, a useful thing a liberal can do, providing an unlimited supply hot air. :)
150 posted on 03/21/2007 9:47:45 AM PDT by skinkinthegrass ( just b/c, you suffer from paranoia, doesn't mean they're not out to get you. :^)
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