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"But my biggest concern is the scorched earth, making candidates unacceptable, instead of making yours more attractive... is going to lead to a 3rd party candidate and President Hillary Clinton. And I see the same people doing it time and time again."

Didn't you read any of the threads that JimRob posted on the Rudy topic? It was pretty clear that he doesn't want Rudy leading the party.

This is the primary season and its the time for presenting the facts about the candidates record and position on the issues.

I don't mind anyone bringing up any issues, and especially don't care when people pump up their candidate or showcase their strong record on whatever issues.

I simply said that it feels to me that in this election cycle, more than any previously things are different. Candidates are eager to use the 'new media' and netroots and places like FR to their advantage, and things are starting to stink around here.

Not from any specific campaign (though the hunter people seem more overtly aggressive than others), but its all guessing, I certainly don't have hard proof. Plus I also know for a fact that libs are on here posting into the same chaotic mess to 'stir the pot'.

And again, its not about working your guy or his strenghts... its the tearing down (how many "rudy again, smoke nazi" posts will pissant post in a day?), the endless youtube of his SNL skits or photos in drag, the feeding of the "my way or highway" 3rd party guys that WILL lead to a Perot situation and us loosing... no doubt.

The thought of KOS kids teaming up with Freepers to take out Rudy, even if he happend to get the primary nod (and if they don't know they are working toegher) makes me queasy.

And even then... if its just by passionate people... then I can't really be upset about that. But when it gets into FR being part of the campaign machine, or at least I think it may be... thats just too far. I don't like being played.

At least thats what I was wondering... so I posted a vanity asking how others felt or if everyone though I was over reacting (surely "those people" can just be really really dedicated supporters acting on their own)... just seems to me a few are a little extra motivated than others.

Anyway, more than anything, the fact that the vanity was removed within 30 seconds of being posted has me more concerned than any other doubts or worries I had before.