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Rudy Giuliani Could be Just the Ticket for Social Conservatives
American Thinker ^ | March 19, 2007 | J. Peter Mulhern

Posted on 03/18/2007 11:17:46 PM PDT by FairOpinion

Can America's mayor win support from enough social conservatives to win the Republican nomination?

Maybe not, but social conservatives should think long and hard before they decide to pass on Giuliani. This may be difficult advice to credit. Giuliani is thoroughly alienated from the dominant concerns of the social right.

Mayor Giuliani delivered what they needed most. He reclaimed New York City from the toxic leftism of his predecessors but in the process identified himself with the moral elements of their leftism.

social conservatives are concerned about social rot and Giuliani is one of the very few executives in the history of the world with a record of reversing rot. This is appealing.

On September 11, 2001 and the days that followed he auditioned for commander in chief and the audition went well. This too is appealing. If we don't bestir ourselves to win our war with Islamic fascism, the moral state of our civilization won't matter. We won't be around to wallow in sin.

Social conservatives could benefit from the presidency of someone who agrees with them less but fights for them more. This is the crux of Giuliani's appeal to the social right and every other Republican constituency. He is a fighter, and Republicans of all sorts are sick and tired of turning the other cheek and seeking common cause with the enemy both at home and abroad.

(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...


TOPICS: Editorial; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: americasmayor; bs; electionpresident; elections; gagalert; giuliani; gopliberal; rudy; rudy2008; rudytherino
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To: no dems; EternalVigilance
Then check this out.
241 posted on 03/19/2007 1:01:17 PM PDT by wouldntbprudent
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To: wouldntbprudent

As Jim Robinson says, "A liberal is a liberal is a liberal..."

In fact, I think a strong case can be made that a liberal with an "R" by their name is more damaging to the republic and to conservatism than a Dem.


242 posted on 03/19/2007 1:02:16 PM PDT by EternalVigilance ("History is cluttered with the wreckage of nations that became indifferent to God and died." - WC)
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To: NapkinUser

Okay, so you want to stop the guy.

Please tell me: who do you intend to get nominated?


243 posted on 03/19/2007 1:03:04 PM PDT by wouldntbprudent
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To: NapkinUser

"Already derailed"?

On what planet?


244 posted on 03/19/2007 1:03:55 PM PDT by wouldntbprudent
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To: airborne

How can we "talk about getting behind the selected candidate when the time comes," when it's the anti-Rudy folks who are already declaring they won't support the Republican nominee if he gets the nomination?

These types of premature declarations are what are conflating the discussion of the primaries and the general election.

If people are declaring they won't support so-and-so in the general election, that impacts who people want to support in the primaries. And not in the way one might suppose.


245 posted on 03/19/2007 1:07:20 PM PDT by wouldntbprudent
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To: EternalVigilance

Your tagline is disgusting.


246 posted on 03/19/2007 1:08:07 PM PDT by wouldntbprudent
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To: indylindy

Start looking?

People have been looking.

And there're not finding.

There's a reason Rudy Giuliani is the frontrunner---and, no, it's not because the MSM/GOP or some other version of the Mind-Numbed Robot Sydrome is "shoving" him down Republicans' throats.


247 posted on 03/19/2007 1:10:50 PM PDT by wouldntbprudent
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To: wouldntbprudent; indylindy

there're = they're (sigh)


248 posted on 03/19/2007 1:13:05 PM PDT by wouldntbprudent
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To: wouldntbprudent

I think we will get a pleasant surprise in due time.

Relief from Rudy liberalism.


249 posted on 03/19/2007 1:13:20 PM PDT by dforest (Liberals love crisis, create crisis and then dwell on them.)
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To: OrthodoxPresbyterian
Social conservatives would benefit if Rudy dropped out of the race and supported someone with a record of supporting the right to life, such as Ron Paul.

We don't need any more RepubliCrats in the White House redistributing our earnings to Planned Parenthood or any other abortionists.

250 posted on 03/19/2007 1:14:37 PM PDT by The_Eaglet
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To: wouldntbprudent

Just don't worry about it.

Great typing is not a plus here. LOL


251 posted on 03/19/2007 1:15:25 PM PDT by dforest (Liberals love crisis, create crisis and then dwell on them.)
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To: wouldntbprudent
Your tagline is disgusting.

Really? What's wrong with it?

252 posted on 03/19/2007 1:15:57 PM PDT by EternalVigilance ("History is cluttered with the wreckage of nations that became indifferent to God and died." - WC)
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To: CharlesWayneCT

Oh, come on.

No one and no thing will stop ME from standing against the culture of death, even if it means I'm the last pro-life person in America.

And that's true regardless of WHO is in the White House.

How about you?


253 posted on 03/19/2007 1:18:44 PM PDT by wouldntbprudent
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To: Blackirish

That's useful information.


254 posted on 03/19/2007 1:19:51 PM PDT by wouldntbprudent
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To: OrthodoxPresbyterian

Does not Duncan Hunter have the same position as Rudy on PBA?

Who are you supporting in the primaries?


255 posted on 03/19/2007 1:22:06 PM PDT by wouldntbprudent
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To: THEUPMAN

Oh, Apocalypse Now!

Let's just get Dr. Kevorkian out of jail right now and finish the country off sooner rather than later.

The whole country is rotten, stinking, stupid, vulgar, nasty, ugly, mean, embarrasing and cheap and there's no hope of finding one---not one!---good man who has a shred of morality, a glimmer of a love for God, a nano-urge to do a good deed, a even faint desire to live decently.

IT ALL SUCKS. THIS IS THE WORST COUNTRY ON EARTH.

Why do we even keep on existing? Why don't we just take down our flags, blow up our military-industrial complex, scrap our economy, throw the Constitution and our Republican form of government on the ashheap of history, and flush ourselves down the toilet. Immediately.

WE STINK.

/s


256 posted on 03/19/2007 1:32:10 PM PDT by wouldntbprudent
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To: wouldntbprudent
First let me apologize for even posting here. It's no excuse,but I just got back from a long trip last night and posted at 7 AM this morning, not thinking, or not enough coffee.

I'm trying to avoid pro-Rudy threads.

But since I did, and since you asked, here goes -

How can we "talk about getting behind the selected candidate when the time comes,"....

You choose to do so, and then follow through. Easier said then done. I know.

...when it's the anti-Rudy folks who are already declaring they won't support the Republican nominee if he gets the nomination?

I will not answer to charges leveled against others. But the pro-Rudy side has been accusing the anti-Rudy crowd of being liberal Dem trolls who are supporting Hillary.

And I'm not going to say anything to either side that will change the level of "debate".

I think the debate has gotten unproductive, so I will attempt to avoid these threads unless someone asks me there, posts to me from previous comments or I screw up again, like this morning.

So, with that said, I'm off to some other, more productive threads.

257 posted on 03/19/2007 1:39:55 PM PDT by airborne (Airborne! Ranger! Vietnam Vet! That's why I support DUNCAN HUNTER 2008!)
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To: EternalVigilance

Here they go again, trotting out the Big Man's quotes as if we are now supposed to bow down and STHU.

And "A liberal is a liberal is a liberal." Wow, that's insightful. I bet the author never realized he was penning one for the archives with that passing observation.


258 posted on 03/19/2007 1:40:51 PM PDT by wouldntbprudent
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To: EternalVigilance
In fact, I think a strong case can be made that a liberal with an "R" by their name is more damaging to the republic and to conservatism than a Dem.

Alright. Let's hear it.

I challenge you to make your case.

259 posted on 03/19/2007 1:42:17 PM PDT by wouldntbprudent
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To: The_Eaglet

How would supporting Ron Paul benefit the country, since he has a snowball's chance in Tahiti of being elected?


260 posted on 03/19/2007 1:43:45 PM PDT by wouldntbprudent
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