Posted on 03/18/2007 11:17:46 PM PDT by FairOpinion
Can America's mayor win support from enough social conservatives to win the Republican nomination?
Maybe not, but social conservatives should think long and hard before they decide to pass on Giuliani. This may be difficult advice to credit. Giuliani is thoroughly alienated from the dominant concerns of the social right.
Mayor Giuliani delivered what they needed most. He reclaimed New York City from the toxic leftism of his predecessors but in the process identified himself with the moral elements of their leftism.
social conservatives are concerned about social rot and Giuliani is one of the very few executives in the history of the world with a record of reversing rot. This is appealing.
On September 11, 2001 and the days that followed he auditioned for commander in chief and the audition went well. This too is appealing. If we don't bestir ourselves to win our war with Islamic fascism, the moral state of our civilization won't matter. We won't be around to wallow in sin.
Social conservatives could benefit from the presidency of someone who agrees with them less but fights for them more. This is the crux of Giuliani's appeal to the social right and every other Republican constituency. He is a fighter, and Republicans of all sorts are sick and tired of turning the other cheek and seeking common cause with the enemy both at home and abroad.
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This article is a monumental, gargantuan stretch.
It will never happen.
Time to quit haggling to sell someone inappropriate and start looking for a uniter.
Thompson looks pretty good and would be a great candidate..
This logic only works if one believes that the entire country is represented by NYC.
It is not. Not even close. NYC doesn't even represent a typical city in America.
It is not. Not even close. NYC doesn't even represent a typical city in America.
NYC doesn't even represent NY state.
The pro-life cause was advanced during their terms.
To a lesser degree, it was advanced during Clinton's term, because we could stand in opposition to "the other party's culture of death".
How are we going to stand against the "culture of death" when our own party elected it?
Boy... This post sure hit a nerve!
You the got partial birth posting ...the Rudy cards.... ...Rudy in drag
No difference between Rudy and Hillary!
Most of the whole RudyHaters club showed up!
It got them FLOPSWEATING like Al Gore on an hot August afternoon!!
1st thing on a Monday morning too.!! LOL
I think I'll start posting that pic on the Duncan Hunter theads! Cuz he has the same position as Rudy on PBA.
Yet, on the Fox News show, Giuliani said that he supports a ban on partial-birth abortion as long as there is a provision to protect the life of the mother.
"If it has provision for the life of the mother, then I would support it," he told the Fox News program.
Washington, D.C. The House of Representatives yesterday passed H.R. 760, the Partial-Birth Abortion Ban Act of 2003, by a margin of 282-139. Congressman Duncan Hunter (CA-52), who is a cosponsor of the legislation, proudly voted in favor of this measure which prohibits medical doctors, except in situations where the LIFE OF THE MOTHER is threatened, from utilizing certain procedures that involve the partial delivery of a living unborn baby, killing the child, then completing the delivery
Bump!
And if some of you are wondering what the problem is with licensing gun owners, you should know that last week a newspaper made public the registry of every citizen in Virginia who had a concealed carry permit, which required government approval and therefore were government records.
This is a nice article promoting Mr. Giuliani.
It's only flaw is that it is out of touch with reality.
Here are a couple of examples:
"George W. Bush has socially conservative opinions but..."
"He will nominate sound judges (most of the time) but never make the case that Roe v. Wade needs to be overturned..."
Actually, President Bush has made the case that Roe must be overturned. The author is dealing in fiction.
"The 'pro-choice' argument has always been incoherent because it depends on the absurd idea that there can be a constitutional right to do wrong. Rational and decent people can believe that abortion should be legal, but only a monster or a moron can maintain that a civilized nation should celebrate abortion as a constitutional right."
I actually agree with this. However, Mr. Giuliani, then, is one of the monsters or morons who has actually CELEBRATED abortion as a constitutional right, actually GIVING SPEECHES at ANNIVERSARY DINNERS CELEBRATING the "right" to abortion.
Thus, it is entirely out of touch with reality when the author writes:
"Social conservatives don't need a president who will mount a crusade to re-criminalize abortion nationwide. They need a president who can persuade the American people that proclaiming a constitutional right to abort is barbaric. In all the decades since Roe v. Wade no politician has ever made this point clearly and forcefully.
"Giuliani could be the first. He could argue that there can't be a right to do wrong more persuasively and with much less political risk than any pro-life true believer."
Mr. Giuliani has been a pro-abort since 1989, and has affirmed Roe as good constitutional law, has affirmed that abortion is a constitutional "right," and even during his current presidential run has adamantly refused to back off his fervent belief that abortion is a constitutional "right."
The author is lost in his own dreamworld.
sitetest
Heartbeats start 18 days after conception.
Brainwaves about four weeks.
Yet you're willing to support a guy who says maybe he'll support a child's Right to Life when the lower half of its body is already kicking on the delivery table... maybe.
Do Rudy supporters even realize that they have an eternal soul?
If so, do they even care about where their souls will spend eternity?
I'm not being snide -- honest, I'm really not. I really do not get it.
Jesus of Nazareth spoke with hatred -- unabashed, uncompromising HATRED -- towards those who would even hurt defenseless children:
Am I really living in a Nation where so-called "Christian Conservatives" would condemn their souls to the everlasting Hatred of Jesus for the sake of a possible, no-guarantees, one-time election victory against a two-bit harridan from Arkansas?
What Country is this? What have you done with my Church, and my America??
an argument for a Trojan Horse.
Beware Liberals Bearing Guilianis.
I see the intellectually challenged have shown up to post their spam. It's just killing them that Rudy is the frontrunner!
It's killing us that so many conservatives are supporting a liberal.
Rudy is a fiscal and law and order conservative and I'm delighted that Americans are smart enough to recognize that.
It's just killing them that Rudy is the frontrunner!
Yes it is .
IT's heartbreaking.
To see ones beloved country swirling in the vortex as it'd flushed down the toilet.
The GOP has been the only force guarding the gate ... the only real hope to gain control of our once great country.
If rudy is all we have to offer , then we are truly done.
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