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To: greasepaint
do you know how to read?

Apply those comments to yourself first. Your initial claim of liquid energy 10/1 was to a comment that didn't limit the energy comparison to only the portion that makes ethanol look good.

the rest is coal-etc, that cost pennies.

And Natural Gas (directly as well as electricity) and nuclear and other resource they are not giving away. Pennies, well lots and lots of pennies.

If the process is so cheap and great, why does it take government mandates and subsidies?

95 posted on 03/19/2007 8:46:15 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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In the end, even the most generous analysts estimate that it takes the energy equivalent of three gallons of ethanol to make four gallons of the stuff. Some even argue that it takes more energy to produce ethanol from corn than you get out of it, but most agricultural economists think that's a stretch.

Making ethanol is so profitable, thanks to government subsidies and continued high oil prices, that plants are proliferating throughout the Corn Belt. Iowa, the nation's top corn-producing state, is projected to have so many ethanol plants by 2008 it could easily find itself importing corn in order to feed them.

But that depends on the Invisible Hand. Making ethanol is profitable when oil is costly and corn is cheap. And the 51 cent-a-gallon federal subsidy doesn't hurt. But oil prices are off from last year's peaks and corn has doubled in price over the past year, thanks mostly to demand from ethanol producers.

http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/070310/ethanol_q_a.html?.v=2

Consumers will soon feel the effects of high corn prices as well, if they haven't already, because virtually everything Americans put in their mouths starts as corn.

Demand for corn driving up meat prices

The Columbus Dispatch Friday, March 9, 2007

WASHINGTON (AP) -- Strong demand for corn from ethanol plants is driving up the cost of livestock and will raise prices for beef, pork and chicken, the Agriculture Department said Friday.

The cost of feeding chickens has gone up 40 percent, according to the National Chicken Council. http://www.columbusdispatch.com/news-story.php?story=251975

98 posted on 03/19/2007 9:54:46 AM PDT by anglian
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