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Iraq: past, present and future ~ The MSM desperately wants you to understand how bad it is.....
The Orange County Register ^ | Sunday, March 18, 2007 | Warren P. Strobel McClatchy Newspapers

Posted on 03/18/2007 9:44:11 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach

A battle abroad and at home

President Bush bucked public opinion and advice from the Iraq Study Group when he ordered 21,500 more U.S. combat troops to Iraq as part of his plan to reverse the deteriorating course of the war.

The idea was to secure Baghdad and tamp down sectarian violence, allowing reconstruction to proceed and, eventually, Iraqi security troops to take over.

Critics, including many retired high-ranking Army officers, say more troops aren't the answer. Other experts say more forces will help only if the deployment is coupled with a political plan that forces compromises by Iraq's warring Shiite and Sunni Muslims on how to distribute oil revenue and other tough questions, compromises they've long been unwilling to make.

– Warren P. Strobel

McClatchy Newspapers

(Excerpt) Read more at ocregister.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: allahspress; iraq; iraqsurge

1 posted on 03/18/2007 9:44:19 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: All
The BBC is promising the publication of a Poll of the Iraqis telling you how BAD IT IS:

Pessimism 'growing among Iraqis'

However today the TimesOnline of the UK had a much larger poll that said things were getting better:

Iraqis: life is getting better

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MOST Iraqis believe life is better for them now than it was under Saddam Hussein, according to a British opinion poll published today.

The survey of more than 5,000 Iraqis found the majority optimistic despite their suffering in sectarian violence since the American-led invasion four years ago this week.

One in four Iraqis has had a family member murdered, says the poll by Opinion Research Business. In Baghdad, the capital, one in four has had a relative kidnapped and one in three said members of their family had fled abroad. But when asked whether they preferred life under Saddam, the dictator who was executed last December, or under Nouri al-Maliki, the prime minister, most replied that things were better for them today.

Only 27% think there is a civil war in Iraq, compared with 61% who do not, according to the survey carried out last month.

2 posted on 03/18/2007 9:49:04 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (The DemonicRATS believe ....that the best decisions are always made after the fact.)
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To: NormsRevenge; Grampa Dave; SierraWasp; blam; SunkenCiv; Marine_Uncle; Allegra; tobyhill; Dog; ...

fyi


3 posted on 03/18/2007 9:56:29 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (The DemonicRATS believe ....that the best decisions are always made after the fact.)
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To: All
FR Thread:

Violence slashed as troop surge hits Baghdad

4 posted on 03/18/2007 10:14:54 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (The DemonicRATS believe ....that the best decisions are always made after the fact.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; Berosus; Cincinatus' Wife; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; FairOpinion; Fedora; ..

Thanks E!

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/iraq/article1530762.ece


5 posted on 03/18/2007 10:15:34 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (I last updated my profile on Sunday, March 11, 2007. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Haha! The mainstream media can take a flying leap. ;-D


6 posted on 03/18/2007 10:17:14 PM PDT by Judith Anne (Thank you St. Jude for favors granted.)
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To: SunkenCiv
Another thread of interest:

Attack on al-Qaida (video)

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a documentary explaining how many Iraqi tribal leaders have turned on Al Qaeda. ( and they are Sunnis in Anbar province....)

7 posted on 03/18/2007 10:18:52 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (The DemonicRATS believe ....that the best decisions are always made after the fact.)
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The Captain's Quarters discusses the Times of UK poll:

Iraqi Survey Says ...

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The Times of London conducted a major poll of Iraqis to determine their state of mind a month after the beginning of the surge, and it finds the Iraqis rather optimistic. Four hundred pollsters went door to door to speak to over 5,000 Iraqi adults, and found that almost a majority of them preferred life now under the democracy of Nouri al-Maliki rather than the oppression of Saddam Hussein:

8 posted on 03/18/2007 10:23:10 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (The DemonicRATS believe ....that the best decisions are always made after the fact.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

"Four hundred pollsters went door to door to speak to over 5,000 Iraqi adults"...

...and only five or six of the pollsters were later found beheaded. :'D

-or-

...and only five or six of the pollsters turned out to be al-Qaeda terrorists out to massacre everyone in the house.


9 posted on 03/18/2007 10:27:26 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (I last updated my profile on Sunday, March 11, 2007. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Fred Nerks

Our local home town....used to be conservative Newspaper.....Bastards.....


10 posted on 03/18/2007 10:42:16 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (The DemonicRATS believe ....that the best decisions are always made after the fact.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; Cannonette
Much of the American MSM wants desperately wants to obscure their role as enemy psychological operators. In the wake of American failure, for which they will no doubt take the credit, deservedly so, their treachery will be unpunished.

If THEY fail in their Perception Management, justice awaits them.

Perception management consists of actions to convey and/or deny selected information and indicators to target audiences [i.e., us] to influence their emotions, motives, and objective reasoning; and to intelligence systems and leaders at all levels to influence official estimates, ultimately resulting in behaviors and official actions favorable to the originator’s objectives. In various ways, perception management combines truth projection, operations security, cover, deception, and psychological operations (JP 3-13).

The MSM targets friendly forces and interests with perception management activities, such as propaganda and deception, to undermine our will to fight or resist.

11 posted on 03/18/2007 10:44:11 PM PDT by Cannoneer No. 4 (Civilian Irregular Information Defense Group -- Distributed IO and counter-PsyOps)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

WARREN P. STROBEL

Warren P. Strobel is a senior editor at U.S. News & World Report, responsible for covering national security and intelligence. He joined the magazine in October 1998.

For three years before that, Mr. Strobel was White House correspondent for The Washington Times, covering the Clinton White House and traveling extensively with the president domestically and abroad. From September 1994 through September 1995, Mr. Strobel was a Jennings Randolph Peace Fellow at the Washington, D.C.-based United States Institute of Peace. At the Institute, he conducted research for a book on how the U.S. news media report on modern peace operations and the media's effect on American foreign policy and public opinion...

http://usinfo.state.gov/journals/itps/0300/ijpe/pj51bios.htm


12 posted on 03/18/2007 10:58:45 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (Fair Dinkum Aussie.)
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To: Cannoneer No. 4; ABBA

I pray that the American MSM and the BBC receive the Justice they so richly deserve...and DIE....


13 posted on 03/18/2007 11:05:55 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (The DemonicRATS believe ....that the best decisions are always made after the fact.)
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To: SunkenCiv

Thanks! ...I just sent that article you linked to 'a few close friends'.


14 posted on 03/19/2007 12:11:07 AM PDT by Seadog Bytes (OPM - The Liberal 'solution' to every societal problem. (Other People's Money))
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

It is simple. and most people understand what I am talking about when I say this.

The Democrats and the Main Stream Media are simply "vietnaming" our troops for political gain.

Why do you think the Dems are not really pushing as hard to cut the funding as seriously as we all thought they would. Of course they passed some non binding stuff and have put some bills up for vote just to appease their anti war base. But the reality is that the Democrats want us to continue to have trouble in Iraq. The more US soldiers that die in Iraq, the greater the chance that they get elected in 2008.

so... they dont really want to end the war. they just want to undermine it all the way to the bank for more power. Power, power, power. They have the power to cut funding, but they are wanting to keep it going for even more power. They are so obsessed with Bush hatred and power.


15 posted on 03/19/2007 1:15:40 AM PDT by se_ohio_young_conservative
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
MSNBC, CNBC and NBC are worried about us forgetting Iraq. Hence, today MSNBC is using the entire day to review the war on the basis this is the fourth anniversary.

This issue is receding into the background. Witness the poor turnout at the antiwar protest this weekend. After one hour there were only 1000 listening to Sheehan et al. Actually, Freepers report they had more counterdemonstrators than demonstrators.

Guerrilla wars are notoriously lengthy. The Philippine Insurrection went on from 1899 to 1913, we fought our Native American brothers for 270 years--between 1620 and 1890 (Battle of Wounded Knee) and we garrisoned the South till sometime in the 1870's--1877?

Besides that we controlled Germany until 1949 and Japan until 1951 and still have our military in both countries.

The MSM has advocated, like in Viet Nam, a quagmire when,indeed, we are experiencing the usual problems of a guerrilla war.
16 posted on 03/19/2007 7:00:47 AM PDT by shrinkermd
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To: se_ohio_young_conservative

Well thought out.


17 posted on 03/19/2007 8:23:46 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (I last updated my profile on Sunday, March 11, 2007. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

The L/MSM will find it increasingly difficult to keep up their smoke screens, as Baghdad and the other provinces rid their lands of AQIR and the numereous religious/resitance/terrorist groups. Of course there are still a lot of zealot dopes out there that think blowing themselves up along with a few civilians or foreign forces, will get them some favor from allah. They sure are in for a bitter surprise in the afterlife.


18 posted on 03/19/2007 6:23:39 PM PDT by Marine_Uncle
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