Spartan society was nothing more than ruling homos. At a very young age, boys were sent to learn about being a "man". He was taught not only combat techniques, but was also buggered by teachers and students alike. This was suppose to form a relationship with his comrade...they were to become manly men first.
Spartans practiced eugenics. Babies who were seen as undesirable were thrown into cliffs. They were probably the first Fascists.
I was wondering how many posts it would take before someone introduced the topic of homosexuality into the discussion. (38 Posts)
No they didn't. You "buggered" a boy or any male in ancient Greek society, incudling Spartan society, and you were either exiled or put to death. Don't listen to all that revisionist modern fake 'history' put forth by scholars who themselves are homosexuals. Unlike what these pseudo "proffesors" and some other misinformed individuals claim, we have what the ancient Greeks, including the Spartans, say about this matter and it is very clear homosexuality/bisexuality/sexual pedastry was against their laws and views including Plato's views on same sex relations where he calls same sex relations "the crime of male with male, or female with female, is an outrage on nature":
"Whether these matters are to be regarded as sport, or as earnest, we must not forget that this pleasure is held to have been granted by nature to male and female when conjoined for the work of procreation; the crime of male with male, or female with female, is an outrage on nature and a capital surrender to lust of pleasure." ~(Laws I 636a-d)
[16]'If any Athenian shall outrage a free-born child, the parent or guardian of the child shall demand a specific penalty. If the court condemn the accused to death, he shall be delivered to the constables and be put to death the same day. If he be condemned to pay a fine, and be unable to pay the fine immediately, he must pay within eleven days after the trial, and he shall remain in prison until payment is made. The same action shall hold against those who abuse the persons of slaves.' ~Aeschines "Athenian Law 16"
Oh and Aeschines also tell us about a father who locked up his daughter because she lost her virginity before she was married in this huge house were none could get to her, a fate that according to him, that was worse then death. These were views held by the ancient Greeks LONG before some of these modern fake 'scholars' starting spreading this myth that ancient Greek society was so "open" to homosexuality/bisexuality or that they were "so open" about their sexuality. They were not, those are modern ideology that never existed in ancient Greece.
[13] The customs instituted by Lycurgus were opposed to all of these. If someone, being himself an honest man, admired a boy's soul and tried to make of him an ideal friend without reproach and to associate with him, he approved, and believed in the excellence of this kind of training. But if it was clear that the attraction lay in the boy's outward beauty, he banned the connexion as an abomination; and thus he caused lovers to abstain from boys no less than parents abstain from sexual intercourse with their children and brothers and sisters with each other. ~Xenophon, Constitution of the Lacedaemonians 2.13
But the men of Lacedaemon, holding that "if a man but lay his hand upon the body and for lustful purpose, he shall thereby forfeit claim to what is beautiful and noble"--do, in the spirit of their creed, contrive to mould and fashion their "beloved ones" to such height of virtue,[71] that should these find themselves drawn up with foreigners, albeit no longer side by side with their own beloved,[72] conscience will make desertion of their present friends impossible. Self-respect constrains them: since the goddess whom the men of Lacedaemon worship is not "Shamelessness," but "Reverence. ~Xenophon, Symposium (The Banquet) 8.70
Spartan 'love' had nothing to do with shamefulness, if there ever was any such a suspicion since they would have brought shame upon Sparta. The result would be the exile of both of the loss of their lives.. ~Claudius Aelianus 'History' III.12
'Any male Sparta that admires a Lakonian youth, admires him only as we would a very beautiful statue. For bodily pleasures of this type are brought upon them by Hubris and are forbidden..' ~Maximus of Tyre "Declamations' 20.e
'[F]or the man who in his youth was led by shameful indulgence to surrender honorable ambition, that man [say the lawgivers] ought not in later life to be possessed of the privileges of citizenship.' ~Aeschines "Athenian: Scrutiny of Public Men"
Aeschines in his speech also reference the Lacedaemonians in where he speaks about the Spartans where during a one of their assembly events where '[a] man who in despite of nature has shamed against his own body' was voted down by the Spartans and Aeschines used this event to praises the Lacedaemonians ways by quoting an old Athenian saying "kalon d' esti dai tas xenikas mimeisthai" translation: "well to imitate virtue even in a foreigner." ~ Aeschines: Against Timarchus ([180]-[181])