Posted on 03/18/2007 8:48:36 AM PDT by Kaslin
DESPITE sectarian slaughter, ethnic cleansing and suicide bombs, an opinion poll conducted on the eve of the fourth anniversary of the US-led invasion of Iraq has found a striking resilience and optimism among the inhabitants.
The poll, the biggest since coalition troops entered Iraq on March 20, 2003, shows that by a majority of two to one, Iraqis prefer the current leadership to Saddam Hussein’s regime, regardless of the security crisis and a lack of public services.
The survey, published today, also reveals that contrary to the views of many western analysts, most Iraqis do not believe they are embroiled in a civil war.
Officials in Washington and London are likely to be buoyed by the poll conducted by Opinion Research Business (ORB), a respected British market research company that funded its own survey of 5,019 Iraqis over the age of 18.
The 400 interviewers who fanned out across Iraq last month found that the sense of security felt by Baghdad residents had significantly improved since polling carried out before the US announced in January that it was sending in a “surge” of more than 20,000 extra troops.
The poll highlights the impact the sectarian violence has had. Some 26% of Iraqis - 15% of Sunnis and 34% of Shi’ites - have suffered the murder of a family member. Kidnapping has also played a terrifying role: 14% have had a relative, friend or colleague abducted, rising to 33% in Baghdad.
Yet 49% of those questioned preferred life under Nouri al-Maliki, the prime minister, to living under Saddam. Only 26% said things had been better in Saddam’s era, while 16% said the two leaders were as bad as each other and the rest did not know or refused to answer.
Not surprisingly, the divisions in Iraqi society were reflected in statistics — Sunnis were more likely to back the previous Ba’athist regime (51%) while the Shi’ites (66%) preferred the Maliki government.
Maliki, who derives a significant element of his support from Moqtada al-Sadr, the hardline Shi’ite militant, and his Mahdi army, has begun trying to overcome criticism that his government favours the Shi’ites, going out of his way to be seen with Sunni tribal leaders. He is also under pressure from the US to include more Sunnis in an expected government reshuffle.
The poll suggests a significant increase in support for Maliki. A survey conducted by ORB in September last year found that only 29% of Iraqis had a favourable opinion of the prime minister.
Another surprise was that only 27% believed they were caught up in a civil war. Again, that number divided along religious lines, with 41% of Sunnis believing Iraq was in a civil war, compared with only 15% of Shi’ites.
The survey is a rare snapshot of Iraqi opinion because of the difficulty of working in the country, with the exception of Kurdish areas which are run as an essentially autonomous province.
Most international organisations have pulled out of Iraq and diplomats are mostly holed-up in the Green Zone. The unexpected degree of optimism may signal a groundswell of hope at signs the American “surge” is starting to take effect.
This weekend comments from Baghdad residents reflected the poll’s findings. Many said they were starting to feel more secure on the streets, although horrific bombings have continued. “The Americans have checkpoints and the most important thing is they don’t ask for ID, whether you are Sunni or Shi’ite,” said one resident. “There are no more fake checkpoints so you don’t need to be scared.”
The inhabitants of a northern Baghdad district were heartened to see on the concrete blocks protecting an Iraqi army checkpoint the lettering: “Down, down with the militias, we are fighting for the sake of Iraq.”
It would have been unthinkable just a few weeks ago. Residents said they noted that armed militias were off the streets.
One question showed the sharp divide in attitudes towards the continued presence of foreign troops in Iraq. Some 53% of Iraqis nationwide agree that the security situation will improve in the weeks after a withdrawal by international forces, while only 26% think it will get worse.
“We’ve been polling in Iraq since 2005 and the finding that most surprised us was how many Iraqis expressed support for the present government,” said Johnny Heald, managing director of ORB. “Given the level of violence in Iraq, it shows an unexpected level of optimism.”
Despite the sectarian divide, 64% of Iraqis still want to see a united Iraq under a central national government.
One statistic that bodes ill for Iraq’s future is the number who have fled the country, many of them middle-class professionals. Baghdad has been hard hit by the brain drain — 35% said a family member had left the country.
Now what will the people in the west who are so invested in defeat say about this bit of news?
1) Denial?
2) Spin?
3) Change the meaning of words?
4) Silence?
Of course they don't. It's a figment of traitor media and traitor Democrats -thirsty to regain power- imagination.
Iraqi's know full well that outside forces are working against them - the terrorists the USA is there to eliminate.
These people have not been watching the news, and therefore know nothing about what is going on over there.
Exactly. Who are you going to believe...Pelosi or the Iraqis lying eyes?
Even during the worst of it Iraq was not in Civil war unless of course we have changed to a much weaker standard for it which I suppose since that is the specialty of liberals (to weaken standards) that just may be the case. The left and the Democrats in this country have a stake in making Iraq a failure and no matter. They chose that path early on, as they always do, positioning themselves as defenders of terrorists and dictators worldwide making the case that the world just was a better place with them. Here in America we can't tolerate a mild homosexual label yet our leftist friends would assign hundreds of thousands of people to tyranny in order to not risk the spilling of their cappuccino.
Even worse I think are the conservatives and libertarians who ran for the hills when confronted by the lies of the media and let them define Iraq. They fell prey to the tried and true tack of liberals. If things aren't going as bad as you need them to be exaggerate long enough and pretty soon your twisted demented hallucinatory view is the media reality. This is what the left counts on. They are the whining brats of the world and too many conservatives like bad parents just give in so they shut up which of course they don't.
Why one is a realist because they parrot lies, I have no idea. We have failed our soldiers in allowing the worms of society to define the debate. Seems even Donald Trump has become one of those worms, he should just call up Rosie and take her out for a night of wild sex and get it out of his system. I'm just tired of the whole thing. Where are the rational analytical people who assess things with an even keel? The world seems led by a troupe of enuches waiting for their king.
In other words, the all-important "civil war" discussion has only to do with U.S. domestic politics. It's not surprising that rank and file Iraqis don't really care about this nuance.
Probably all of the above
Also notice ORB who conducted the poll went to the people and asked them personally.
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Hold up there hoss. The Times of London is one of the best papers in the world and it is the best and most comprehensive paper in the UK. They are centre right and they rarely go in for what you call bias and lies. You need to know what you're talking about before you start spewing your own lies. Just plain ignorant is what your post was.
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Oh my! I'm sorry. I have confused them with the TIME magazine.
You know... the rag with the big red letters.
Ok. Sorry. The Times is a great paper. I get upset sometimes when posters tee off on it assuming it is left wing. It is a pretty no-nonsense paper. Along with the Telegraph about the best voice of reason on this side of the Atlantic.
If you ask the DemoCrats and moonbats to define civil war, they are unable to
LOL
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