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To: JHBowden
The problem isn't the illegals, who are good for the North American economy.

Bankrupting public and private health institutions is good for the economy?

Filling our prisons is good for the economy?

Affirmative action in citizenship for illegals from Mexico is good for the economy?

Selling our country out to illegals who have no allegiance to the United States to start with is good for the economy?

Are you a joke or just a traitor?

73 posted on 03/18/2007 7:36:12 AM PDT by Sir Francis Dashwood (LET'S ROLL!)
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To: Sir Francis Dashwood

Francis--

There are solid, economic reasons why things are screwed up. You, like many paleocons, try to make things into a personal culture war.

Am I in favor of getting government out of the health care business, and allowing medicine to choose who they provide coverage for? You bet.

Am I in favor of putting criminals in prison? Absolutely. Blacks are far more likely to commit crime than Latinos in the United States, but I am certainly not in favor of deporting them wholesale.

As far as the allegiance nonsense, Nativists were saying the same thing about Germans and the Irish back in the 1830s and 1840s-- they were more loyal to the Pope than they were to the Republic, blah blah blah.

Given Carlos Mencia is not a menace to the United States, I think the border bots suffer from something very similar to Bush Derangement Syndrome. Revolutionary Muslims killed 3,000 people during an astonishing attack on our own soil, and radical revolutionaries like Ahmadinejad are planning to follow up the attacks with nukes. Rather than face this existential danger, many have displaced the emotion on things more innocuous-- Bush is destroying us, immigrants are destroying us, global warming is destroying us, the beliefs of Christians are destroying us according to atheists.

All of this is nonsense, and is really amazing considering the real people who plan to do some real harm to the Republic with the weapons of Armageddon.


75 posted on 03/18/2007 7:52:17 AM PDT by JHBowden (President Giuliani in 2008! Law and Order. Solid Judges. Free Markets. Killing Terrorists.)
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To: Sir Francis Dashwood
Are you a joke or just a traitor?

I think you should apologize. There used to be a time at this forum where every post didn't have to end with a blistering insult.

We were free to engage in discussion, even disagreement, without insults.

People were free to be corrected and enlightened without being called idiots.

Take it out of the gutter. We can do better.

77 posted on 03/18/2007 7:59:52 AM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: Sir Francis Dashwood

You would be smart if you read post #75 of this thread and reflected on its significance before writing out one more knee-jerk reaction. The truth is, is that immigrants have always benefitted this country (on net) even though the benefits may not be seen until the third generation has lived out their lives. That is the flat out truth. But deeply rooted fear and hatred prevent people such as yourself from seeing this. Negative attitudes about immigrants have always existed and yet the United States of America has been able to absorb them and even prosper because of them. Check your history, paleocon, you may just learn something if you're willing to open your closed mind for a change.


88 posted on 03/18/2007 8:21:56 AM PDT by LowCountryJoe (I'm a Paleo-liberal: I believe in freedom; am socially independent and a borderline fiscal anarchist)
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