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To: ZULU

We can agree on the first two issues -- the ones we have already covered. But, I differ on the next two. Homosexuality: it is none of my business what two conscenting adults want to do amongst themselves...my preference is to not make a federal case of it and not have to pay social security survivor benefits for it. Do you really suppose that people choose to be homosexual given the life of torment and isolation they lead in their developmental years? Immigration: allow more immigrants to come here legally and restrict the handouts that they can recieve by the taxpayers. Immigration has always been a boon to our economy.


154 posted on 03/18/2007 12:29:34 PM PDT by LowCountryJoe (I'm a Paleo-liberal: I believe in freedom; am socially independent and a borderline fiscal anarchist)
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To: LowCountryJoe
"Homosexuality: it is none of my business what two consenting adults want to do amongst themselves...my preference is to not make a federal case of it and not have to pay social security survivor benefits for it."

Basically I agree with you from a philosophical perspective. However, following that road has resulted in intolerable problems. Not only are being asked to "tolerate" homosexuality, the activist homosexual community is DEMANDING equivalence with heterosexuality, and ENDORSEMENT by society of what is essential an unnatural and perverted practice. EVEN IN SCHOOLS, children are now being taught that homosexuality is an "acceptable alternative lifestyle" Consequently, I'm all for shutting them back in the closet, and nailing the door closed.

Mr. Giuliani does NOT see things from my perspective.

"Do you really suppose that people choose to be homosexual given the life of torment and isolation they lead in their developmental years?"

I think some people have an uncontrollable predilection for that lifestyle due to biological factors beyond their control. I sympathize with them as long as they restrict their activities to themselves and others who are of a like inclination and do not seek society's imprimatur on their behavior. BUT I ALOS believe a SOCIETY can develop in which homosexuality has become SO TOLERATED, and SO INSTITUTIONALIZED that even people who do not have a biological imperative to practice it do so. For instance - the Ancient Spartans, Later Republican Rome and Imperial Rome, the Mochicas and Chimus of South America, and the Ottoman Turks. Its IMPOSSIBLE for all the people who practised that perversion in those societies were driven by such a uncontrollable biological urge. Its something which had become accepted and then endorsed - just as the homosuxual community in the modern western world is attempting to do with their perversion.

"Immigration: allow more immigrants to come here legally and restrict the handouts that they can receive by the taxpayers. Immigration has always been a boon to our economy."

Again, we don't really have an issue here. The issue isn't IMMIGRATION. Immigrants are people who come here LEGALLY, who wish to become AMERICANS and admire and wish to absorb our culture.

Mr. Giuliani supports ILLEGAL INVADERS - people who break our laws to come here and then secure benefits from our society. He supported them while mayor of New York and has not expressed any intention of changing his mind on this subject.

And I agree that LEGAL immigrants are the lifeblood of our society. "Guest Workers" are merely a Trojan horse for more illegal invaders, and a prop to support corrupt corporate interests who have no desire to provide American workers and legal resident aliens with a decent living.
177 posted on 03/18/2007 2:17:36 PM PDT by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts and guns made America great.)
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