The only links Head is providing are second hand "they could have been doing this"
You say that, but in those links are quotes and transcripts from the trial itself, quoted by the people you call "second hand"...but wait, Gritz was there and he is (irrespective of whatever else you may say) in these areas recognized as someone with the experience to tell the difference in the types of wounds and the entire "ambush" scenarios, so he is not second hand or coming at this as some kind of novice off the street. Notice, he did get the family out of there alive with no further bloodshed, and his contentions were used successfully by the defense at the trial. So, with Gritz, you're back to defaming and slandering him about other things to try and make your point.
Pretty weak.
So, simply stated, your accusation does not hold...but even then, you follow up that accusation against me (even though not valid), with this...
It bothers me that even if Weaver would have shot one of the Feds first he'd still be a hero to most here
Hrrrummphh!...seems like a little bit of a double standard to me. What you, yourself put forward in that sentence is a HUGE "what if" (what you had just tried to slam me for linking to others), and it is one that is refuted absolutley by the facts. Weaver did not shoot a Fed or anyone else on that hill top...AT ALL, not first, second, or otherwise.
'nuf said.
BTW, just out of interest. From the way you refer to me in your posts...and rom the many years now that I have been around here...you sound an awful lot like a former Freeper. Are you a retread? I may be completely wrong on that...but was just interested.
Jeff I cant agree with your assessment of Gritz' credibility. His judgement alone is questionable just based on his history of aligning with extremists of every creed.
He talks a fine talk, yet surrounds himself with haters, paranoid militants, racists, and religious zealots. I cant see him being considered anything but nutty. Ruby Ridge seems to be some sort of Woodstock for some people. Something to relive and roll around in like "those were the days". Its hindsight but I see it as an real ugly view of both sides of the story.
Whats your affiliation with these types? You believe in the the ZOG? Christian Identity? Where are you coming from.