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To: WilliamofCarmichael
Why dont you and Head get a room? Klamath Falls was an environmental fiasco and not Aryan Brothers, Christian Identity, White Surpremists, and survivalists apocolypse-now sensationalists. And that is exactly who was involved in all this back then.

All of you scream "entrapment" yet Weaver actually thought he was selling sawed off shotguns to a friggin Aryan Biker who was going to resell them to black "mud people" gangs, who would only use them to kill each other.

He did it for the money. Thats not entrapment.

My original premise still stands. Weaver and his wife let her "visions" and their paranoia put thier kids at risk. Its was stupid. He would still have his wife today.

I admit the fools that ran the attack on his house screwed up big time, but he was still the one responsible for his childrens safety.

350 posted on 03/19/2007 3:50:42 AM PDT by DainBramage
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To: DainBramage
Why hello! Mr. DainBramage.

How are you today?

What you say in your reply about Mr. Weaver is not completely unreasonable to me. We disagree.

To wit, "Weaver and his wife let her 'visions' and their paranoia put their kids at risk. Its was stupid."

It's trite but true but... there's no law against being "stupid" and no harm. Of course stupidity cannot be used as an excuse if other laws are violated.

We totally disagree on how "it all got started" and the family was put at risk. So be it.

Maybe it's my disposition as a confirmed "loner" but I find nothing wrong with being that kind of stupid.

We certainly agree that "the fools that ran the attack on his house screwed up big time."

As for Klamath Falls, yes in the beginning there were some outsiders trying to help the farmers and merchants. The outsiders had a score to settle with the government -- they were mostly from the spotted-owl-devastated lumber industry, I believe. There may have been some of the type you mention, also. They were not welcomed.

I would like to see any valid sources that the groups you mentioned had any influence at Klamath Falls. I certainly recall that every effort was made to exclude them.

356 posted on 03/19/2007 11:21:52 AM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: DainBramage

Randy Weaver is my first cousin,our dads were

brothers...even though I do not share his politics, I do

know he was not as radical as the media made him out to be.

If you have not gotten the facts straight after this

long,it really does not matter. Everyone has their opinion

on this tragic event. Sometimes paranoia is

justified...Simply because I am his cousin,I wonder if I am

in some dossier in a little corner of some overzealous

government law enforcement agent..In the 70's I broke a few

laws. Who knows? kellyw


368 posted on 03/26/2007 7:28:31 PM PDT by kweaver
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