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To: cpdiii
"When he killed her that is who he intended to kill when he pulled the trigger. I do not blame Hourrachi, he was a sniper that was following his instructions. His superiors are guilty of murder. They issued the orders and rules of engagement."

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Well, I'd have to disagree. If your assessment of the situation is in fact true...if I were the sniper I would simply disregard the order and take what ever penalty would come my way. I can not see any set of circumstances that would warrant shooting an unarmed civilian holding a child. None whatsoever. Not in a military situation, not in a civilian situation. That sniper and every LEO officer above him responsible for giving that order should be tried and convicted of manslaughter at the very least. There is nothing "professional" about shooting an unarmed civilian and a child. Not in the military...and certainly not in a civilian situation. To just say "he was following orders" is ridiculous. Let's apply your position to a captain of a boomer... let's say he wakes up on the wrong side of his cot that morning and decides to immolate a city...do you think those under him who follow his "order" shoulder no responsibility?

In short... give our snipers more credit. Even snipers (should) have morals. They are professionals.


again, just my opinion of course...
28 posted on 03/17/2007 8:09:24 AM PDT by taxed2death (A few billion here, a few trillion there...we're all friends right?)
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To: taxed2death

Horiuchi got away with murder. Idaho tried to punish him but could not make it stick.


86 posted on 03/17/2007 9:01:07 AM PDT by karnage
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To: taxed2death
Good morning.
"...if I were the sniper I would simply disregard the order and take what ever penalty would come my way."

I believe I have read that there were other HRT snipers in place who did just that. I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure that Horiuchi is also the one who shot Weaver in the back the day that Vicki was killed.

Michael Frazier
87 posted on 03/17/2007 9:02:58 AM PDT by brazzaville (no surrender no retreat, well, maybe retreat's ok)
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To: taxed2death
if I were the sniper I would simply disregard the order and take what ever penalty would come my way. I can not see any set of circumstances that would warrant shooting an unarmed civilian holding a child. None whatsoever. Not in a military situation, not in a civilian situation. That sniper and every LEO officer above him responsible for giving that order should be tried and convicted of manslaughter at the very least.


Bravo ...
Well said.
Some people would have no problem turning on the gas , or lighting the fires .
People must be held accountable for their actions. Today we have to many instances of abuse that are covered by the "color of law".
325 posted on 03/18/2007 5:52:40 AM PDT by THEUPMAN (####### comment deleted by moderator)
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