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Sacramento Train Trestle Catches Fire
NBC 11 [San Jose] ^ | March 15, 2007

Posted on 03/15/2007 6:42:26 PM PDT by Lonely Bull

SACRAMENTO, Calif. -- A fire on a train trestle sent huge plumes of smoke over Sacramento late Thursday afternoon.

The fire burned near the American River Parkway and Highway 80, near the California Exposition and State Fair.

Smoke could be seen for miles.

The fire is about 100 yards long, according to the Sacramento Fire Department.

A fire officials said there appears to be no structures on the tracks.

Four or five engines responded to the blaze, according to fire officials.

The cause is unknown.

Stay with NBC11 and NBC11.com for more information


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: petroleumpipeline; railroad; sacramento; trestle
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1 posted on 03/15/2007 6:42:39 PM PDT by Lonely Bull
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To: Lonely Bull

I just logged onto FR to see if I could find anything out about this fire... saw it from my back yard and turned on the news and they are reporting is the direction of the smoke being good news. They're talking asthma, smoke disbursement, etc., but no word on the cause or why the football-field length of track is all evenly burning. I wonder how it started?


2 posted on 03/15/2007 6:46:07 PM PDT by MonicaG (In hoc signo vinces. The whole world will see justice done.)
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To: Lonely Bull

Newscasters also reported "turn off the A/C and lock the doors..."!!! They also report there are petroluem pipelines underneath those tracks, which may be contributing to the intense burning.


3 posted on 03/15/2007 6:47:55 PM PDT by MonicaG (In hoc signo vinces. The whole world will see justice done.)
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To: MonicaG

Saw the fire on local news,, be careful..

The lumber used in the trestle construction have also been treated with creosote or such, which when burnt, emits a lot of nasty stuff ..

It was burning pretty good , not much they can do at this point except let it burn out,, they should be able to shut the pipelines down , that bridge is off the air for awhile, imo. quite a few tracks across too..


4 posted on 03/15/2007 6:57:20 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ......)
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To: NormsRevenge

My guess is that UP might just completely rebuild a new trestle once the fire is out. That means the mainline could be out of service for at least two weeks.


5 posted on 03/15/2007 7:00:11 PM PDT by RayChuang88
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To: MonicaG

"A fire officials said there appears to be no structures on the tracks." HUH???


6 posted on 03/15/2007 7:01:26 PM PDT by Chief Engineer
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To: Chief Engineer

Hell of a place to build a house ain't it?


7 posted on 03/15/2007 7:05:01 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Peace without victory is a temporary illusion.)
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To: cripplecreek

a trackhouse, no doubt,, many a tract house has track running close by.. a house here would be a real shaker tho,, :-]


8 posted on 03/15/2007 7:07:38 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ......)
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To: MonicaG
For we whom know nothing ...

How active is the train traffic?
What is it used for .. passenger or freight or coal/mineral?
What major terminals does this line connect?

A trestle is somewhat isolated (I would assume) and a good spot for a green criminal to create havoc.

9 posted on 03/15/2007 7:11:08 PM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true.)
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To: knarf
How active is the train traffic?
What is it used for .. passenger or freight or coal/mineral?
What major terminals does this line connect?

The trestle has about 50 trains a day passing through it, so all kinds of railroad traffic use this line, including the Amtrak Coast Starlight, California Zephyr and Capitol Corridor trains. It is part of the former Southern Pacific overland route from the San Francisco Bay Area to points east, and is also part of the Southern Pacific north-south "I-5" route. The nearest terminals to this bridge are Roseville Yard (UP's largest yard on the US West Coast) and the Sacramento Amtrak station.

In short, this line out of service will have serious effects on train traffic until the bridge is rebuilt.

10 posted on 03/15/2007 7:21:17 PM PDT by RayChuang88
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To: Lonely Bull

Smells real bad from my house, and I'm a good ten miles away. Flaming creosote soaked timbers don't make for good breathing! The local news had some spectacular footage of the fire at its peak... A very long, thick black curtain of smoke rising hundreds of feet into the air, visible 50 miles away, they said. Cause said to be a chemical used to seal wood. Don't know if they were referring to the creosote or if some other chemical was used recently to treat the timbers.


11 posted on 03/15/2007 7:22:41 PM PDT by LibWhacker
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To: Lonely Bull

Another interesting aspect mentioned on the local news... That trestle also had major communications lines on it... big bundles of fibre optics, etc., running down to the Bay Area.


12 posted on 03/15/2007 7:27:35 PM PDT by LibWhacker
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It's nasty smelling stuff, hope folks stay out of its way



Sacramento KCRA 3 video here

http://www.kcra.com/news/11265140/detail.html


13 posted on 03/15/2007 7:40:49 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ......)
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some pics here


Sacramento
News10.com


http://www.news10.net/news/gallery/train-fire/train-fire-gallery.aspx

video

5:55 p.m. - Aerials Over Burning Trestle

http://www.news10.net/video/player_news10.aspx?aid=37214&bw=


14 posted on 03/15/2007 7:43:15 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ......)
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.-.
News10.com
15 posted on 03/15/2007 7:45:07 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ......)
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To: Lonely Bull

ROP alert? Note name of photo supplier to the tv news in links.


16 posted on 03/15/2007 7:53:08 PM PDT by Paladin2 (Islam is the religion of violins, NOT peas.)
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Update ;; bridge is likely toast

an ap piece..

Dramatic fire burns railroad trestle near Sacramento
http://www.bakersfield.com/119/story/105460.html

AARON C. DAVIS | Thursday, Mar 15 2007 7:30 PM
Last Updated: Thursday, Mar 15 2007 7:30 PM

A 300-foot stretch of an elevated railroad trestle caught fire Thursday evening, sending a dramatic wall of thick, black smoke thousands of feet into the air and disrupting rail traffic through the state capital.

The blaze forced Amtrak to halt a westbound train from Reno to Sacramento, said George Elsmore, railroad operations and safety program manager for the California Public Utilities Commission.

He said the fire also was likely to disrupt freight traffic throughout Northern California.

"This is a main line for the Union Pacific. It's a major line right over the American River," he said.

Fire officials said they had not determined how the blaze started. But the creosote-soaked trestle - which keeps trains elevated above local roads and a wetlands area - fueled an intense fire that could be seen from more than 50 miles away.

The spectacle drew a crowd of hundreds of pedestrians from nearby hotels and stores and crippled rush-hour traffic on the Capital City Freeway around Cal Expo, the state fairgrounds. The fire also had cut power to some local stores.

The trestle, which was buckling and appeared ready to collapse, supports a key rail artery leading into Sacramento.

Officials reported that several Amtrak trains were scheduled to travel through that section of track and were being stopped. Freight lines also are expected to be stalled by the fire, Union Pacific spokesman James Barnes told The Sacramento Bee.

"It certainly is one of our main lines," Barnes said. "We are anticipating that the trestle will not survive. The important thing now is get that fire under control and out, and then we can better assess the situation."

No train was involved in the fire, he said.

Emergency workers used loudspeakers to tell pedestrians to stay out of the path of the smoke, fearing it may be hazardous. The wall of smoke extended an estimated 2,000 feet into the air and bent in a giant S-curve, blanketing the capital skyline.

Christian Pebbles, a Sacramento Fire Department spokesman, told KCRA-TV that the relatively remote location of the fire was making it difficult for firefighters. There were no water hydrants nearby.

Firefighters, however, were using what water they could get to the site to make a defensive stand near a levee on the American River, Pebbles said.


17 posted on 03/15/2007 8:12:06 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ......)
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To: Paladin2

I wondered that also, which is why I was curious if any FReepers had knowledge about long spans (apparently 300 feet) of creosote (sp?) uniformly burning across the whole span. I just got home from a class and saw on the news it's STILL burning (8:30 p.m. PST). Would a single ignition point (say, a lone arsonist) cause that, or would it have to be deliberately done for that all-at-once effect? I honestly have no idea and am very curious if this is a local ROP activity or more random arson.


18 posted on 03/15/2007 8:51:17 PM PDT by MonicaG (In hoc signo vinces. The whole world will see justice done.)
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To: MonicaG
Timbers large enough to be used to build a railroad bridge, will probably burn for a long time, oil dropped on them over the years would probably greatly aid the spread of the fire, only an inspection would be able to determine if it was of point origin, or multiple ignition points.
19 posted on 03/15/2007 9:03:03 PM PDT by Not now, Not ever! (The devil made me do it!,.......................................................( well, not really.)
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To: MonicaG
uniformly burning across the whole span

It has happened before.

Bad day for a good train crew.

20 posted on 03/15/2007 9:45:30 PM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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