Posted on 03/14/2007 10:48:26 PM PDT by NormsRevenge
When he ran for the U.S. Senate in 1994 and for Massachusetts governor in 2002, Mitt Romney made it clear he believed abortion should be "safe and legal" and that he supported "the right of a woman to choose" to terminate a pregnancy.
But in an interview with The Bee on Wednesday, Romney, a Republican presidential candidate trying to appeal to social conservatives, described a change of heart on abortion more than two years ago. He said he now believes states should be allowed "to pursue pro-life legislation."
"I've changed my view with regards to the role of government in abortion," said Romney, who held a fundraiser at the Hyatt Hotel in Sacramento on Wednesday and also met with Republican lawmakers at the Capitol. "I've always been personally pro-life. But the question for me was what role government should play in the matter of abortion."
Romney, a Mormon who also has come out against stem cell research, said his evolution as an active "pro-life" politician came amid intense debate in Massachusetts over the stem cell issue.
(Excerpt) Read more at sacbee.com ...
Glad to have him aboard. As with other aspects of our lives, people are at different stages of growth. Remaining pro-abortion after giving the issue careful thought is a very difficult position to maintain.
Absolutely the best, most intelligent answer I've heard yet about this issue.
Get the abortion the hell out of the national spotlight and send NARAL and pro-life radicals back home to fight among themselves and torture their respective legislatures.
Both sides will be in each others death grip battling to a virtual stalemate in most instances.
It'll at least get these folks off the streets.
It's fine to debate which of his positions is the real one, but to pretend that he wasn't lying then, or now, is just silly.
"Remaining pro-abortion after giving the issue careful thought is a very difficult position to maintain."
Especially when trying to capture the nomination of a party whose major base of support finds abortion and everyone that supports it to be abominable.
I couldn't disagree more strongly. People do change values and it's not because of convenience. Five years ago I had no problem going into strip clubs and downloading pornography from the internet. Now I wouldn't even consider it. Does that mean I was lying 5 years ago when I considered porn to be harmless adult entertainment? I think not. I was simply foolish, immature, and am glad to say I have grown beyond consuming pornography as "harmless visual stimuli". I'm sure you have in your background some similar things you thought were ok at the time but now reject.
He still supports the destruction of human embryos for the purposes of experimentation, and in fact, is having a big fundraiser in CA this weekend, courtesy of radical pro-abortion, pro-gay agenda folks and those who have given tons of money to fuel the use of human embryos in stem cell research.
Yes, I do find abortion to be abominable but I make an important distinction. As I said earlier, at one time I was wrong enough to believe pornography was just harmless visual stimuli. I was very misinformed and stupid. However I reached a point(much later in life than I should have) where I saw porn for what it really is. I hate abortions, but I pray for the abortion supporters. If Jane Roe can be pro-life now, there is hope.
Ronald Reagan would have called it voting with your feet. If you can't stand San Francisco values, go somewhere more traditional. Same thing with these stupid abortionists. If they want to murder their babies in New York city, then we should go to work on the souls of those people who value life so little. Get the practice outlawed after getting public opinion behind you.
The Sacramento Bee shows it has a liberal bias and no desire to accurately report the news to its readers. I'm sure Romney supports some stem cell research, just not EMBRYONIC. The Sacramento Bee is well aware of this, but willfully passes on inaccurate information to its readers. Pathetic.
He does support using "surplus" embryos for experimentation, to this day. He clouds it in talk about opposing cloning of embryos and public funding, but he still supports destroying embryos.
To: BigSkyFreeper; MHGinTN; EternalVigilance
BigSkyFreeper,
Mitt Romney has never condemned embryonic stem cell research. As your link shows, he only condemns the cloning of embryos. Elsewhere, his spokesperson has stated that Romney opposes federal funds for ESCR, and has never denied his support for the research.
Months before the article you posted, Romney wrote another Globe piece called "The problem with the stem cell bill."
What was Romney's "problem" with the bill? Not that it was pro-ESCR, but that it was "vague on the matter of human cloning." After condemning human cloning, which destroys embryos, Romney then endorsed the destruction of embryos for research.
Confused? That's the idea.
Romney is not against embryonic stem cell research, not against the destruction of life for science, he favors it on "surplus" embryos in fertility clinics--which is the source ESCR supporters are after. This is a position Bush has condemned, as he has joined with the pro-life community in advocating adoption, not destruction, of this life.
Here is Romney's statement from the Globe, March 6, 2005:
The problem with the stem cell bill
Mitt Romney
March 6, 2005
[snip]
Supporters of the bill are correct that state law regulating embryonic research is ambiguous and in need of revising. A proposal designed to give the law clarity, however, should not be vague on the matter of human cloning. This is the problem with the bill. . . .
Stem cell research does not require the cloning of human embryos. Some stem cells today are obtained from surplus embryos from in-vitro fertilization. I support that research, provided that those embryos are obtained after a rigorous parental consent process that includes adoption as an alternative. Further, the greatest successes in stem cell research to date have come from the use of adult and umbilical cord stem cells. Stanford professor William Hurlbut, a physician and member of the President's Council on Bioethics, has proposed a promising approach. Known as altered nuclear transfer, this method could allow researchers to obtain embryonic stem cells without the moral shortcut of cloning and destroying a human embryo.
A bill that includes methods such as these and bans all human cloning would receive my full support. I share the excitement and hope that new cures to terrible diseases like multiple sclerosis, juvenile diabetes, and Parkinson's could soon be within our reach.
http://www.boston.com/news/globe/editorial_opinion/oped/articles/2005/03/06/the_problem_with_the_stem_cell_bill/
That is not a pro-life position. Thankfully, not everyone is fooled.
Romney's stem cell view may upset the right
Use of excess embryos at issue
By Scott Helman, Globe Staff | February 11, 2007
In the heated debate among conservatives over whether Mitt Romney deserves their vote, the focus has been largely on whether his big swings to the right on social issues are sincere.
But on the charged issue of stem cell research, he's facing conservative criticism of a different shade: that he hasn't swung far enough.
Unlike many on the right, Romney supports research on excess embryos created during fertility treatments. Because couples are making embryos to have a baby, he reasons, it is ethical to use the leftovers for research when they would otherwise just be discarded.
Romney's position, however, is at odds with the views of many conservative anti abortion activists, who believe that any work on stem cells derived from human embryos is wrong, because it destroys the embryos in the process. Some say Romney's views make him unacceptable to many voters and will complicate his attempt to win the 2008 GOP nomination by appealing to the party's conservative flank.
Romney's views on stem cell research, which have drawn little public scrutiny amid the static over his shifts on abortion and gay rights, are sure to attract more attention with Congress poised to pass a bill expanding federal support for human embryonic stem cell research, the latest flashpoint in a long-running debate about the sanctity of life and when it begins.
"It's a no-no for some people," Nick Lantinga, a Republican activist in heavily conservative northwest Iowa, said of Romney's support of using excess embryos.
[. . .]
Congress sought to lift the ban last year by passing the CastleDeGette bill. The measure seeks to promote, under certain conditions, research on embryos left over from fertility treatments by sanctioning federal funding for it. It would not authorize federal funding for research that involves cloning.
Bush, using his first presidential veto, rejected the bill.
But the issue is pressing again -- the House passed an identical measure last month and the Senate is expected to follow suit. With Congress still apparently lacking the votes to override a Bush veto, the views of the next president are crucial.
Romney, in an illustration of his delicate maneuvering on the issue, supports the principle at the heart of the bill -- that it's ethical to use excess embryos for research -- but opposes the bill itself, in part because he objects to any expansion of taxpayer-funded human embryonic stem cell research.
Romney aide Peter Flaherty explained in an e-mail statement that Romney does not believe the public should pay for research that is "ethically troublesome."
"Governor Romney believes that because of its inherent ethical issues this research should not be funded by the taxpayers," Flaherty said, adding that Romney supports government funding of research into alternative methods of extracting stem cells.
[. . .]
Romney's views on stem cell research have evolved over the past five years. When he ran for governor in 2002, he endorsed embryonic stem cell research in broad terms, saying at one campaign stop that he would lobby Bush to embrace it.
But in February 2005, as the state Legislature was considering a bill to promote embryonic stem cell research, Romney, after consulting with specialists on both sides of the issue, tried to forge a middle ground: He would fight efforts to clone human embryos for research, he said, but believed it was ethical to experiment on embryos left over from fertility treatments.
Romney continues to hold that position, but he also now expresses opposition to expanding federal funding for research on excess embryos.
[. . .]
Tom McClusky, vice president for government affairs for the influential Family Research Council, noted that Romney, after his education on stem cell research as governor led him to abandon his past support for abortion rights, now describes himself as "firmly pro-life." But the organization is concerned that Romney's position on stem cell research is not a pure "pro-life" position.
[. . .]
"Mitt Romney's position on embryonic stem cell research is not pro-life, and no one should say that it is," the Republican National Coalition for Life, a group founded by conservative icon Phyllis Schlafly, said in a weekly e-mail.
http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2007/02/11/romneys_stem_cell_view_may_upset_the_right/
289 posted on 03/14/2007 1:48:17 PM CDT by Gelato (... a liberal is a liberal is a liberal ...)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1800515/posts?page=289#289
"But the question for me was what role government should play in the matter of abortion."
Whatever,...he is a caver. Political posturing is embarassing and he is guilty. Repubs use the "let states decide" when they don't have the guts to make a stand (except Reagan). He shouldn't be nominated with an answer like that. That whole "even though I'm personally against it", what the hell does that mean? He is garnering support for the nomination. sad.
Good answer on the porn stuff. People change and their reasons for doing so also change.
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