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The Incredible Shrinking Engine
MIT Technology Review ^ | 02/12/2007 | Kevin Bullis

Posted on 03/14/2007 1:31:43 PM PDT by Red Badger

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1 posted on 03/14/2007 1:31:46 PM PDT by Red Badger
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2 posted on 03/14/2007 1:32:48 PM PDT by Red Badger (Britney Spears shaved her head............Well, that's one way of getting rid of headlice.........)
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To: Red Badger

uh, aren't they doing the same thing people with Nitrous systema are doing?


3 posted on 03/14/2007 1:39:13 PM PDT by MD_Willington_1976
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To: Red Badger

Of course this just angers the left. After all...its STILL evil oil that is being used. There is no progress unless no oil us used according to them.


4 posted on 03/14/2007 1:41:50 PM PDT by ICE-FLYER (God bless and keep the United States of America)
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To: MD_Willington_1976
Yep. But an ethanol rig would be a lot cheaper to feed than NOS.

Interesting they are using a turbo. You'd think they'd revive the axial flow compressor or a Whipple type screw charger for a cooler intake charge. Turbo's are hell on heat and almost as bad as a roots type blower.

5 posted on 03/14/2007 1:44:31 PM PDT by Dead Corpse (What would a free man do?)
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To: Red Badger

This is very interesting to anyone trying to figure out ways to get better milage, etc. from existing technology. I hope they can keep Al Gore away until it is perfected! :0 )


6 posted on 03/14/2007 1:44:44 PM PDT by geezerwheezer (get up boys, we're burnin' daylight!!!)
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To: MD_Willington_1976

But nitrous has the distinct advantage of giving the car's occupants a much better boost than ethanol.


7 posted on 03/14/2007 1:46:03 PM PDT by appeal2 (R)
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To: Red Badger

Bump for Later


8 posted on 03/14/2007 1:47:27 PM PDT by bondjamesbond (Fred Dalton Thompson will be the next President of the United States. You heard it here first.)
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To: Red Badger
But, but, but... The whole point of hybrid cars is to GET RID of theose overpowered evil ol' SUVs and sports cars! The population can be controlled better if the proles can't just hop in a car with all their things and drive away!

Hybrids are so uncomfortable to commute with that all the Rednecks would have to move back into the cities, and the countryside could heal, and the Liberal, Upper classes could disarm them, since the idea of slinging a deer carcass across the fender of a Prius is just absurd.

9 posted on 03/14/2007 1:48:29 PM PDT by jonascord ("Don't shoot 'em! Let 'em burn!...")
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To: MD_Willington_1976

Yeah, kinda the same principle.......


10 posted on 03/14/2007 1:49:01 PM PDT by Red Badger (Britney Spears shaved her head............Well, that's one way of getting rid of headlice.........)
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To: jonascord

As long as they make a rig retro enough to fit on a 350cid Chevy SB... I'm good with it making 3x as much horsepower. ;-)


11 posted on 03/14/2007 1:49:48 PM PDT by Dead Corpse (What would a free man do?)
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To: geezerwheezer
I hope they can keep Al Gore away until it is perfected! :0 )

Can't do that...it'd get in the way of him claiming he invented it.

12 posted on 03/14/2007 1:52:21 PM PDT by highlander_UW (I don't know what my future holds, but I know Who holds my future)
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To: Red Badger

gee this must be the first time in combustion engine history this has been tried.

Tell you what folks build it . If it works there wont be any trouble selling it. Stop with the theories and computer tests and build one of the damned thing. I bet it blows up inside 10,000 miles if it makes it that far.


13 posted on 03/14/2007 1:57:17 PM PDT by sgtbono2002 (I will forgive Jane Fonda, when the Jews forgive Hitler.)
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I'm not getting what's 'new' there at MIT...

Injection (water or alky) has been around for years in both automotive and aircraft applications. I think I've seen some current production cars (Mazda?) that have it.

Also, gasoline seems to be the base fuel of choice with plugs to fire it. Wheres the diesel?????

14 posted on 03/14/2007 1:59:51 PM PDT by GoldCountryRedneck ("There are no stupid questions. There are, however, many inquisitive idiots." - unknown)
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To: Red Badger

Every time a Chicken Little has complained to me that all is doomed, I point out that good old technological innovation and (relatively) free markets almost always fix the problem. It drives the socialists mad because they need things to appear to fall apart to sneak in more government regulation, taxation, and control.


15 posted on 03/14/2007 2:01:44 PM PDT by neocon1984 (end the idiocy of post-modernism)
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Both turbocharging and direct injection are preëxisting technologies ...

Pinging ye olde Diaeresis Coöperative.

16 posted on 03/14/2007 2:05:20 PM PDT by dighton
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>>>...and the Liberal, Upper classes could disarm them, since the idea of slinging a deer carcass across the fender of a Prius is just absurd. <<<

A precious "word picture".

17 posted on 03/14/2007 2:05:25 PM PDT by HardStarboard (The Democrats are more afraid of American Victory than Defeat!)
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To: Red Badger
...and will thus reduce gasoline consumption more rapidly.

Not so. If it performs as predicted, this adaptation will only increase engine efficiency. Reduction of gasoline consumption is not related.

Gasoline consumption is most directly related to supply. All gasoline supply will be consumed regardless of engine efficiencies. The most likely effect of massive world-wide increases of engine efficiency on gasoline would be changes in the price of gasoline as it impacted the oil supply system.

Producers would continue to modify their production levels to obtain the best return. Consumers would continue to modify their consumption levels to fit their finite means. And if prices dropped low enough, more consumers would be added to that particular market.

Changing engine efficiencies does not change the law of supply and demand. It is just a variable in a particular product to consumer formula. Only two things will reduce gasoline consumption; reduction in the level of gasoline supply, and reduction in the means to purchase that gasoline supply.

All that being said, I would love to see massive increases in gasoline engine efficiencies!

18 posted on 03/14/2007 2:12:31 PM PDT by DakotaGator
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To: sgtbono2002
It's been done. This is old 60's technology. The alcohol was stored in the windshield washer container and plumbed to the intake manifold. The washer motor was rigged for use during WOT. One had to experiment with the orifice size to regulate how much to inject during WOT.
19 posted on 03/14/2007 2:13:42 PM PDT by Deguello
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>>>Also, gasoline seems to be the base fuel of choice with plugs to fire it. Wheres the diesel????? <<<

Heat is the enemy of gasoline combustion. It explodes prematurely if too hot. Cooling (with ethanol injection) allows higher compression without premature explosion..knock.

Heat is the friend of diesel - the higher the compression ratio (to a point) the higher the power. Its the heat of compression that makes diesel burn! Cooling a diesel charge of fuel and air is counterproductive.

20 posted on 03/14/2007 2:16:05 PM PDT by HardStarboard (The Democrats are more afraid of American Victory than Defeat!)
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