[Dominic Harr]

After giving this some more thought, perhaps the point you are missing is the heliocentrists always ignore the gravitational effects of the rest of the universe and geocentrists always include it.

?

Where did you ever get that idea? That's completely inaccurate . . .

'heliocentrism' simply means that you understand the gravitational physics. And that after you understand that the sun, as the greatests mass in the solar system, has the dominant gravitational effect on the solar system.

So anyone who observes the motion of the planets, moons and sun is observing direct evidence of heliocentrism.

Which is as proven as almost anything.

Y'know?

[GourmetDan]

Not inaccurate at all.

zit just did it.