[MACVSOG68]

We will all (conservatives, Christians,etc)be better off if Mrs. Bill wins the election than if Giuliani wins it. If the Clinton becomes president we will have two years of hard left governance until the right takes over the House and possibly the Senate in 2010. If Giuliani wins then we will have hard left governance for so far as the eye can see with increasingly liberal Congresses. It will pretty much end social conservatism in the country as a political force.

Nothing would please me more than to see the social right become somewhat more marginalized as a political force. But it won't because it is too well organized to give up. So as usual, the social base will whine until the nomination is locked up, and then quietly fall into line. Because deep down they know, as does most of America, that Rudy (if he is nominated) will support conservative values, though they likely will not not include social/moral issues important to the far right, but much less so to most Americans.

[arthurus]

I wish the leftists here would all go to the Democrat party and at least raise the tone of the economic thinking over there a bit. But yall seem determined to convert the Republican party into a clone of the Democrats. Republicans lose elections and power that way. That is where we got 40 years of also-ran status in the Congress. Social liberals are not trustworthy on ANY subject because they have no moral base, no philosophical reason for anything.