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GOP leaders: Don't 'Bob Dole' us again
WorldNetDaily ^ | 3-13-07 | Mychal Massie

Posted on 03/13/2007 5:25:25 AM PDT by Ouderkirk

The] "Hustle" may have been a line dance we did back in the days of disco, but today it's what GOP leadership and a complicit media are trying to do to the voters responsible for the Republican Party's successes since Ronald Reagan.

Realistic chances of winning notwithstanding, there are no fewer than 13 Republicans in the contest for the 2008 presidential sweepstakes. But to hear party leadership and the media spin promote the candidates, one easily gets the impression that John McCain, Rudy Giuliani and Mitt Romney are not just the only candidates, but that McCain and Romney are the opening act for Giuliani as he awaits his coronation.

This is a ruse, a con, and in brief, an attempt to hustle the voters. GOP leadership is trying to "Bob Dole" us. They have, in effect, met in the smoke-filled back room of a private club and decided amongst themselves who they want in 2008. Their problem is how to deceive the voters into believing that said pick is of the voters' choosing.

Their solution: hand pick the candidate, truncate the primaries, shove the candidate down our collective throats vis-à-vis the media's promoting, interviewing and discussing (ad nauseum) McCain, Romney and Giuliani, but in such a way as to always have Giuliani shine brighter. Then, when he has garnered the nomination, we the voters will be told, "Yes, it is true he is a little more moderate than we may like," but if we don't vote for him, Hillary will win and hell will freeze over.

To which, allowing that same has no basis in theological truth, I respond, "If there be a hell on earth, and it freezes over because I vote my conscience and Hillary wins, I'll walk on ice until the party lets the voters truly have a say."

Now, my scenario may not be completely accurate, but you can bet I'm not far off base. One thing is for certain – of the 13 Republican candidates, only three of them are being touted – and don't tell me it's the fault of the other candidates, because a week ago this same media (Fox News included) was trying to convince us that the corpse of Anna Nicole Smith was newsworthy.

I watched as Republican pundits, Fox News, GOP talking heads, and other cable news shows all downplayed the tremendous success of presidential candidate Duncan Hunter, R-Calif., in the South Carolina straw poll. McCain finished two votes ahead of Giuliani, who in turn finished four votes ahead of candidate Hunter.

Even though Hunter finished in a statistical dead-heat with each, garnering 24 percent, of the vote, Giuliani was declared "the clear winner" and "the presumptive Republican presidential favorite." While these comments were without question a slap in the face to McCain, it was Hunter who they chose to disparage the most.

After all, went the reasoning on Fox News, Hunter had his son campaigning for him the entire week before the straw poll – to which Hunter, in classic fashion responded, "You know, I woke up to ... one of the commentators saying that the only reason that Hunter beat all those guys in South Carolina is because his Marine son has been there for a week. Well, I looked down at that army of consultants – everybody who was vertical in South Carolina was hired by the other guys – and I said, 'You know, that is a good match-up: One Marine versus 550 consultants.' We did have the advantage!" (From Hunter's speech given at Conservative Political Action Conference, Washington, D.C., March 3.)

My point is this: Giuliani is being touted as the "Nation's Mayor" and "the presumptive favorite" by the media and most of the GOP armada, but there are a dozen other candidates, and none more honestly conservative than Duncan Hunter.

But the armada and the media don't want you to know that. They want the voters to think there is a choice of one, and if we don't go along with said choice the sky will fall. They will tell us that our picks/choices can't win and we have to go with their guy.

It is not, however, about whether or not their choice can win – it is about whether or not their choice is fit to win. I've seen Rudy as a prosecutor, I've seen him as mayor, and I've seen him dressed up in his blond wig with heavy eye shadow and makeup, strutting about in drag (1997 mayoral spoof of Victor/Victoria).

Now, I'd like to see the media and the GOP armada of talking heads consistently acknowledge that there are a dozen other candidates, and only one of them a true conservative.


TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: duncanhunter; hunter; mccain; rduy
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To: Ouderkirk
GOP leadership is trying to "Bob Dole" us. They have, in effect, met in the smoke-filled back room of a private club and decided amongst themselves who they want in 2008.

What a joke, that's like saying that people in a back room decide what TV show people are going to watch or what car they are going to buy. Rudy is popular on his own, now because the media wants him to win the nomination.

No one is interested in a no name with no record.

121 posted on 03/13/2007 7:51:14 AM PDT by DungeonMaster (Render therefore to Caesar the things that are Caesar’s, and to God the things that are God’s.”)
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To: jveritas
"...Knee jerk doom and gloom conservatives.

According to them there is never time to attack liberals and show their weakness but rather all the time shall be dedicated to attack the Republican Party and President Bush."

WHAT "Republican Party"?? The Platform's been gutted during it's conservative Fire Sale.

Let's call a spade a spade. It's now the "Republicrat Party.

Put on your coke-bottle glasses and maybe you won't miss the Big Fat RINO boil on it's derriere.

122 posted on 03/13/2007 7:51:48 AM PDT by OneWayOut
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To: StatenIsland

I don't buy a conspiracy theory either, but you can't deny the impact that the MSM has on people's awareness of candidates. An election cycle rolls around, and all of a sudden people are told that Hillary, Obama, and the 3-headed Rino represent the frontrunners. Most people get their information from the MSM, so what do you expect them to perceive as a viable candidate. I tell everyone I know to get their news somewhere else and to explore a candidate's history and positions, but everyone's too busy to listen.


123 posted on 03/13/2007 7:53:13 AM PDT by TheeOhioInfidel (DUNCAN HUNTER WOULD PARDON THE TEXAS 3.)
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To: kabar

I hope you are right. It just seems like there have been some criteria that had to be met in some past debates. Things like having to get a certain percentage in the polls.

For example, I know in the past that Alan Keyes has been excluded. Now I have no problem realizing that he was not ever going to win the nomination, but I did think he had some interesting things to say and would have added to the debates. (Of course I LOVE debates)

Can't wait untill they get underway.


124 posted on 03/13/2007 7:54:33 AM PDT by crude77
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To: jveritas

"They should form their own party of idiots."

Maybe they already have, after all lots of people have called the republican party the stupid party.


125 posted on 03/13/2007 7:54:55 AM PDT by antisocial (Texas SCV - Deo Vindice)
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To: CharlesWayneCT
40 million humans are dead in this country because some of OUR leaders don't consider them to be really human. . . . . . Rudy is one of those leaders.

OMG we actually agree on something. I'm assuming you're against Rudy's position on illegal immigration?

126 posted on 03/13/2007 7:56:10 AM PDT by TheeOhioInfidel (DUNCAN HUNTER WOULD PARDON THE TEXAS 3.)
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To: soccermom

As I said in another post it is the most conservative wing of the democrat party who participate in the primaries and therefore the freepers should be very relaxed and not that nervous about Giuliani or Romney because if Duncan Hunter is the one who they want to be the nominee, then he is going to be the nominee and no force on this planet can prevent this form happening. The most conservative wing of the party is supposed to be the most informed and the most involved in politics so the Republican leadership cannot really force any candidate on them.


127 posted on 03/13/2007 7:56:34 AM PDT by jveritas (Support The Commander in Chief in Times of War)
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To: Ouderkirk

>>none more honestly conservative than Duncan Hunter.

Has no one heard of Fred Thompson? He is not only a conservative's conservative, he's got the ability to win this.

Hunter, I don't know him, and that's his biggest problem right now. (The electorate doesn't know who he is)

JM.02


128 posted on 03/13/2007 7:58:08 AM PDT by DelphiUser ("You can lead a man to knowledge, but you can't make him think")
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To: antisocial

Only bitter losers and moronic people call the Republican Party the Stupid party.


129 posted on 03/13/2007 7:58:29 AM PDT by jveritas (Support The Commander in Chief in Times of War)
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To: crude77
For example, I know in the past that Alan Keyes has been excluded. Now I have no problem realizing that he was not ever going to win the nomination, but I did think he had some interesting things to say and would have added to the debates. (Of course I LOVE debates)

Keyes was never a serious candidate. He was our version of Al Sharpton. Some of Keyes' motivation to be in the race had to do with campaign funding and speaking fees. He certainly did not fare well against Obama. I hope he stays out of the debates this time around. Let him run for an elective office and win first.

I think Hunter will do very well in the debates along with Huckabee.

130 posted on 03/13/2007 8:00:04 AM PDT by kabar
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To: TheeOhioInfidel

Basically the most informed in the Republican Party participate in the primaries and they are supposed to be the most conservatives. Therefore no liberal media and no force on Earth including the Republican leadership will force a candidate on them.


131 posted on 03/13/2007 8:01:12 AM PDT by jveritas (Support The Commander in Chief in Times of War)
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To: soccermom

oops, I meant the most informed in the Republican Party not the democrat party.


132 posted on 03/13/2007 8:02:29 AM PDT by jveritas (Support The Commander in Chief in Times of War)
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To: jveritas

"As I said in another post it is the most conservative wing of the democrat party who participate in the primaries and therefore the freepers should be very relaxed "

Was that a misstatement or are you making a Freudian slip thinking of yourself as a democrat while trying to say republican?


133 posted on 03/13/2007 8:03:50 AM PDT by antisocial (Texas SCV - Deo Vindice)
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To: mr_hammer

If the base is rejecting Rudy Giuliani then Rudy Giuliani will not be the nominee, there is nothing you need to fear there.


134 posted on 03/13/2007 8:05:03 AM PDT by jveritas (Support The Commander in Chief in Times of War)
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To: antisocial

You got me there (extreme sarcasm), except that you missed my post # 132. You know we are not all perfect like you "antisocial", have mercy on the simpletons like me.


135 posted on 03/13/2007 8:07:14 AM PDT by jveritas (Support The Commander in Chief in Times of War)
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To: newcthem
If we can't get a true conservative like Duncan Hunter, perhaps it is time to set this one out. As long as we continue to buy this absolute BS that we have to vote for non-conservative RINOs because they are not "true" liberals, we will never have a party

I agree. Let the GOP lose if need be. If we buy into a liberal for '08, than just imagine how much further we might get sold out years down the road, just so we won't elect a Democrat - the whole thing is insane.

136 posted on 03/13/2007 8:08:31 AM PDT by TheeOhioInfidel (DUNCAN HUNTER WOULD PARDON THE TEXAS 3.)
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To: Getsmart64

oops...forgot my nodding in agreement part...lol


137 posted on 03/13/2007 8:11:23 AM PDT by Getsmart64
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To: antisocial
So tell us who the real conservative in the race is.

Not sure yet, since they've not all jumped in yet. It will be someone who recognizes the value of the institutions that represent our government; someone who isn't afraid of change, but not afraid to question it; someone who will ensure that the rights of all Americans are protected, and will ensure the security and safety of the Nation; someone who will work to balance the federal budget, and not fear reducing the size agencies that cannot substantiate either their appropriation or their mission statement.

He or she will be someone who recognizes that the Republican Party is one of freedom for all, not just a select few; someone who believes in the Constitution, and recognizes that it is not the tool of those who fear social and cultural change; someone who recognizes that half the Nation supports other values and parties, and that he is also their president; someone who revers tradition, but does not live or die by it; someone who is unafraid to negotiate and compromise to achieve conservative goals; someone who understands that most social values are a part of the culture of our Nation, but that culture belongs in the domain of society, not government.

That's a start. Hope that helps.

138 posted on 03/13/2007 8:11:47 AM PDT by MACVSOG68
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To: areafiftyone

Why do you consider WorldNetDaily any less credible than anyone else for opinion. This piece was opinion, and not being touted as fact.

Massie's assertions hold some level of credence.

For the life of me I don't understand why you think Rudy is going to be the savior of the Republican Party in 2008. He's not. The libs hated Rudy when he was mayor, and pretty much chased him out of the race for Senator in NY, which gave us Hillary. If Hillary has lost the election for NY Senator to Rudy, she would not even be a candidate for president.

His endorsement of Mario Cuomo over George Pataki in 1994 was despicable as well.


139 posted on 03/13/2007 8:35:44 AM PDT by Ouderkirk (Don't you think it's interesting how death and destruction seems to happen wherever Muslims gather.)
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To: TheeOhioInfidel
I agree. Let the GOP lose if need be. If we buy into a liberal for '08, than just imagine how much further we might get sold out years down the road, just so we won't elect a Democrat - the whole thing is insane.

I wish I had a buck for every whiner who won't vote unless they get "their" candidate. Conservatives understand what the social right fails to, that in spite of its setbacks, mostly from giving in to the RR, the Republican Party is still the party of freedom and the best hope for the continuation of this great Nation. But in the end, where are the social right going to go? They'll be there, even if Rudy is the candidate.

But if not, I say: "Don't let the screen door hit you in the a$$"!

140 posted on 03/13/2007 8:51:55 AM PDT by MACVSOG68
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