NY Times plans Tuesday hit on Gore, Newsroom sources tell Drudge.

Drudge-NY Times ^ | 3-12-07 | Drudge

[ButThreeLeftsDo]

Check this out.....

http://www.boston.com/news/local/vermont/articles/2007/03/13/carbon_confusion/

[RayStacy]

Is Smith a Gore fan or a global warning fan?

[tsmith130]

Can you believe AlGore once ran a marathon?

There must have been a buffet at the finish line.

[Dante3]

LOL

Gore never was an environmentalist, only used the issue when it was to his benefit. He did nothing much during all the time he was VP.

[NonValueAdded]

Turns out it was more like a "tap" than a "hit."

[Halgr]

It isn't a hit piece at all......read carefully ;-)

Drudge was engaged in wishful thinking........LOL

[Arcy]

"Yeah, but I wouldn't trust anything that is printed in the NY Times"

You can trust this! They are just reporting what most scientists believe; that AlGore has taken data and twisted it to meet his own political goals. The environmental movement is not about the environment at all and these scientists know it. Real scientist are rather embarrassed by the likes of a nut job like AlGore.

[right-wingin_It]

I suppose the next thing they're going to tell us is that he didn't invent the internet too.

[Jazzman1]

EXACTLY. IT is NOT coincidence the latest hit pieces on osama-obama and gore coming from the al-nyslimes. They want Hitlery in and will do ANYTHING to that end!

[gondramB]

>>our sun is of the correct size to turn into a red giant and will one day expand until the earth is inside the sun - and the earth will end. ---------
Where did you get that nonsense from? Christians KNOW the world will NEVER end.....world without end. Amen.<<

One of the limitations of the Internet is that its sometimes hard to tell the tone of the poster... I can't tell if you being ironic or straight forward or something else...

But basically a star converts hydrogen to helium, light and other radiation. As a star below a certain mass runs short of hydrogen the star collapses and compresses so much that it can start to burn helium into carbon. The tremendous energy released causes the star to expand.

In the case of our sun, the scientific consensus is that it has about 5 billion years worth of hydrogen left but after that time it will expand to a radius larger than the distance to the earth. The earth will be inside the sun and the earth will end.

Before the earth ends, there will be enough time to repeat recorded human history 625,000 times.

[Arcy]

"But part of his scientific audience is uneasy. In talks, articles and blog entries that have appeared since his film and accompanying book came out last year, these scientists argue that some of Mr. Gore’s central points are exaggerated and erroneous. They are alarmed, some say, at what they call his alarmism."

I just love this! It's like it's my birthday or something!!

Translation...Will somebody on the left please pull Mr. Gore to the side and inform him that his relentless twisting of the facts only serve to make him less believable then he already is and to obscure the findings of the latest scientific facts by actual trained and respected scientists.

Scientist's are coming to the rescue of REAL SCIENCE before it has been hopelessly highjacked by the left wing cool-aid types. The scientific community has finally began to consider the long term effects of allowing moonbats like AlGore and his puppets to go unchecked while they promote lies about the environment and how those lies could shape our future. Voices of reason and and real science are at last getting the air play and print they so desperately deserve.

[gondramB]

>> So, yes, the sea is rising very slowly.

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I'd guess that's thermal expansion of the water, due to rising earth temperatures over the last few centuries, due to increased solar activity over the last few centuries, since the mini ice age in the 1400's.

There ain't a heck of a lot we can do about it -- if we threw the entire planet earth into the Sun, I guess it would make for a nasty Sun spot. Well - it would certainly cause some serious global warming.<<


NASA says about half of annual sea level rise is from thermal expansion and half is from melting ice.

The highest estimate I can find from a science group I trust is that the rate will triple in the next century. The lowest is that the rate will double.

Even tripled, that would be a quarter of an inch a year. Right now the rate is an inch every 12 years. So we can study this for 12 years and only have the water rise by an inch. There is time to study and not rush into Kyoto or a similar crippling treaty.

I would like to see the eventual Presidential nominees go on record about the Kyoto treaty.

[gondramB]

>>Yeah, I miss the good old days when the Earth never changed.<<

My Grand daddy used to say (probably not original):

"Things today are more like they always have been than they ever were before"

[gondramB]

>>"The glaciers in questions are either over a land mass like Antarctica, North America or Greenland or else they are on ice piled all the way to the sea bottom."

Perhaps, but what the GW henny pennys don't mention is that while ice is melting at A, it is thickening at B. As mentioned in "The Great Global Warming Swindle", even in the Medieval Warm Period there was tons of glacial ice on Greenland. And all of this is academic, anyway, because we aren't causing GW. Without the lefties, we would be allowed to observe with curiosity instead of unreasoned fear and panic. Wouldn't that be nice?<<


The alarmists may not mention that but NASA and the NOAA take that into consideration. They don't talk about just melt but instead use "mass balance." And then they measure the oceans separately.

In short, sea level is rising. NASA says about half the rise is from more ice melting than is accumulating. The rate is slow - about an inch every 12 years.

[presently no screen name]

world without end. Amen

the scientific consensus

I see, a 'Christian' who places 'the worlds' word over 'God's'.

[cake_crumb]

Some of this morning's headlines, via Google News search:

New York Times

Some Gore points under microscope Los Angeles Daily News, CA - 6 hours ago So do many environmentalists, who praise him as a visionary, and many scientists, who laud him for raising public awareness of climate change. ... Al Gore’s Really Inconvenient Truth: Even the NY Times is Growing ... NewsBusters From a Rapt Audience, a Call to Cool the Hype New York Times Times disses Al film as convenient stretch of truth Boston Herald all 21 news articles »

[cake_crumb]

"(the man who touts himself as un opinionated) with this eco whacko pushing a "carbon neutral" lifestyle...)"

He wants us to stop nreathing?

[presently no screen name]

thanks.

[cake_crumb]

"The truth is that global warming as indicated by glaciers retreating and seas rising is a problem - a problem that continued even when temperatures stopped rising between 1945 and 1976"

Glaciers have been retreating for tens of thousands of years. Most of North America was covered by them at one time. Sea levels have risen accordingly with that retreat since the end of the last Ice Age. Yes Virginia, there is global warming. It's what ended the Ice Age to begin with.

Water vapor is the most abundant greenhouse gas. As the climate began warming tens of thousands of years ago, causing millions of square miles of ice to melt, it stands to reason that more and more water vapor has been added to the atmosphere. It'd be a self feeding trend. That's only taking into acocunt one greenhouse gas - without which there'd be precious few living things on the planet to worry about whether it's getting warmer.

Exactly how much responsiblity does mankind deserve for a trend that started before we existed? As I see it, that is the crux of the problem between environazis who want cars to be illegal and the intestinal tracts of cows taxeed and regulated like Al, and most of the rest of us.

[gondramB]

>>world without end. Amen

the scientific consensus

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I see, a 'Christian' who places 'the worlds' word over 'God's'.<<

Interesting outlook. I find nothing in Jesus' words to indicate we should try to learn all we can about the world.

Surely you understand that nothing of this world burns forever. I would think it would be comforting to find the expected life of the sun is so much longer than human experience.

Do you think the people of biblical times could have comprehended how long 5 billion years in the future is? Look at trouble people have with that concept even today. Five billion years is essentially forever to someone who believed the world was a few thousand years old.