Posted on 03/12/2007 2:43:36 PM PDT by Names Ash Housewares
Edited on 03/12/2007 11:45:12 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]
NY TIMES PLANS TUESDAY HIT ON GORE, NEWSROOM SOURCES TELL DRUDGE: 'Scientists argue that Gore's warnings are full of exaggerated claims and startling errors'... Developing..
From a Rapt Audience, a Call to Cool the Hype
"Hollywood has a thing for Al Gore and his three-alarm film on global warming, “An Inconvenient Truth,” which won an Academy Award for best documentary. So do many environmentalists, who praise him as a visionary, and many scientists, who laud him for raising public awareness of climate change.
But part of his scientific audience is uneasy. In talks, articles and blog entries that have appeared since his film and accompanying book came out last year, these scientists argue that some of Mr. Gore’s central points are exaggerated and erroneous. They are alarmed, some say, at what they call his alarmism.
“I don’t want to pick on Al Gore,” Don J. Easterbrook, an emeritus professor of geology at Western Washington University, told hundreds of experts at the annual meeting of the Geological Society of America. “But there are a lot of inaccuracies in the statements we are seeing, and we have to temper that with real data.”.."
Looks like I was wrong - I should have said 2nd highest east of the Rockies but even that doesn't seem to be true - Nashville seems to be higher.
http://erg.usgs.gov/isb/pubs/booklets/elvadist/elvadist.html#50
Yup. Thats my take on it too.
I think you want "steveo"
This makes ManBearPig and Sexual Harassment Panda sad.
Mark
>>The following graphs show that Earth is in a brief period of global warming called an interglacial. The longer time spans, the deep troughs are glacial periods. The line that runs across the graphs is the temperature in 1950 and listed as "0" on the left axis.<<
Regardless of the cause we will have to deal with the consequences. We have had four previous warming that hit the current temperature in the last 600,000 years. If it goes back down that's one thing but if it breaks out of the 600,000 year limits it will an issue.
Boy, Hillary must be shaking in her pantsuit. Hee, hee!
Hillery must have the NY Times FBI files also. Or maybe their tax files.
Your gragps remind me of a show I once saw on the timeline of earths history.
They mapped it out on a desert road and the commentator in a porsche roared down the road Roooar...rooarr. rooar...
He'd drive a few miles and stop and say this is the end of the mezazoic period. he'd hop in and take off Roooar...rooarr. rooar...He'd drive a few miles and stop and say this is the end of the paleozoic period. he repeated this until the age of man.
The age of man was like one inch of the road. L0L
gragps= graphs L0L
I was thinking..."heck, even if he lives atop stonewall Mt" L0L
>>I know you watched TGGWS. I rather we spent those gabillion dollars on helping humanity in a way that actually helps them<<
It is very strange that they are talking about tens or hundreds of billions of dollars, exempting China, India and Russia and the fact the 30% of human produced CO2 comes from burning forests and yet they don't want to carefully examine whether anyone can prove human causation.
Most Gore supporters are either irrational or are carefully calculating how to use this for political gain.
But I felt that particular rebuttal film was not a great deal better.
>>I was thinking..."heck, even if he lives atop stonewall Mt" L0L<<
That was a good catch - and I'm glad it got caught here before I repeated it in a hostile environment.
One thing that surprised me in that chart is that Denver isn't the highest at 5400 feet since Albuquerque is over 6,000 feet.
I thought the film was spot on
Holding breath....not. Actually, Bill Clinton's political wife may have the goods on AllBore.
>>I thought the film was spot on<<
It was really well done. I can at least agree with that much.
I know. I used to live in a town at 5050 elevation and used to think whats all the fuss about denver?
--Here is a site sponsored by NASA, the NOAA and the National Science foundation - the bottom line is that at the current level of global temperature, most of the rise just comes from Greenland but if temperature projections are correct the problem will accelerate as thermal expansion and antarctic melt kicks in. --
Nice graphs, but limited scope. Obviously money won't grow on trees, but grant $$$ would be better spent on NEW angles of research, as opposed to a bunch of repetitive studies that duplicate the politically-correct, anthropogenic warming party line.
What about the effects of additional precipitation due to warming, which would cause more snowfall (and hence more ice)in some locations? Or the effects of cosmic rays on clouds? Climate prediction has too many variables to be satisfactorily shown in two-dimensional graphs.
Thus, it's pure hubris to assume that anthropogenic warming is settled science. It's the same hubris that assumes we'll find a "green" source of energy other than nuclear power.
Bottom line: it would be wise for the U.S. to salvage the nuclear power industry, long BEFORE shutting down fossil-fuel plants or taxing them out of existence.
welp 24 is about to come on.
Cya later
If it goes back down that's one thing but if it breaks out of the 600,000 year limits it will an issue.
If it goes back down that's one thing but if it breaks out of the 600,000 year limits it will an issue one thing. If you notice in Figure 1-6, Earth was even hotter prior to that of the last 600,000 years. The most probable next major climate change will be an ice age. There's no evidence to suggest that it will alter it's 100,000 year cycle.
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