[tfecw]

"Nice. When someone cuts her off and she rolls that van down an embankment, please come back and tell us so I can laugh about it"

Nice, very nice.

My friend did just that on a 75mph road. To be fair he was only doing 75, not 80, so do you still get to yuk it up?

[BearCub]

My friend did just that on a 75mph road. To be fair he was only doing 75, not 80, so do you still get to yuk it up?

If he was doing 75 during the day on a dry road then no, that's really too bad that happened to him.

My point was that teaching a (presumably) 16 year old kid that it's okay to do 80mph in a full-size van is idiotic. If someone wants to kill their kid then fine, that's a perfect example of Natural Selection in action. Just don't put the rest of us at risk.