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To: Free ThinkerNY
Are you saying that people carrying handguns would have produced the same decrease in violent crime that Giuliani's law enforcement policies achieved?

No, better.

I understand perfectly well what fascism is and how it's sold. I know more about it than you do.

I doubt that seriously.

I don't support Giuliani for President, but if he's elected, this country will not become a police state.

I don't believe that. One act of terrorism and he'll have all the weapons he needs. His antipathy to the Fourth and Fifth Amendments as a US Attorney is all I need as evidence of his propensities.

Prior to becoming President, Reagan had a reputation as Governor of California that was seen by his enemies as fascist.

As a person who was living in a city adjoining Berkekey at the time of People's Park demonstrations I can say unequivocally that the reputation and the reality were two different things. Really, you don't know what you are talking about if you make that comparison. Reagan was unbelievably tolerant against deliberate violent provocation by dedicated and well funded communists, something Rudy never faced. These people belonged to organizations that had used bombs and were photographed carrying automatic weapons.

Reagan was not a fascist. Giuliani is not a fascist.

No sale, and I know a damned sight more about Bratton's "Broken Window" theory than you realize.

114 posted on 03/11/2007 12:04:44 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (Grovelnator Schwarzenkaiser: Debtor's fascism for Kaleefornia, one charade at a time.)
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To: Carry_Okie

I lived for 8 years with Giuliani as my Mayor. I did not live in a police state. Only Liberals thought that Giuliani was a fascist running a police state in NYC. The Conservatives I know loved him. Only Liberals I know hated him. They called his quality of life crime policies fascist. He was a fascist for cleaning up porn shops and the street crime it attracted. A fascist for not allowing homeless street people to sleep on the city streets, the subways and in train and bus terminals. A fascist for saying that taxpayer money should not go to support the anti-Christian Brooklyn Museum exhibit. A fascist for cracking down on street drug activity. There are many more examples. The idea that he would use a terrorist act as an excuse to become a dictator is the same line we get from his enemies on the Left. Your version of reality is in line with his DemonRat enemies. I thought he was a RINO Liberal? Now, he's a would-be fascist dictator. Which is it?


116 posted on 03/11/2007 2:27:55 PM PDT by Free ThinkerNY ((((Truth shall set you free))))
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