Posted on 03/10/2007 9:24:06 PM PST by Angel
Did she go to jail? Was she placed on probation? Is she considered a convicted felon in the eyes of the law?
I for one am sick and tired of simply settling for the lesser of two evil candidates the GOP puts in front of us. This time I'm voting on principal, I'm voting for a pork barrel big spending Republican. Vote Duncan Hunter!
"Do you really believe the outcome is the same if you have Hillary or Giuliani as President?"
Pretty much so, yes. Since Rudy has stated that his policies and the Clowntoon's are just about a complete match. Doesn't THAT sound any warning bells for you?
..like I said--because he's too liberal...
A backbencher, who is BIG on PORK, BIG GOVERNMENT, BIG on hobbling the stock market and American business, who gives BIG defense contracts to a pal, who can't do the job, so OUT SOURCES the technical work to some firm in INDIA, whilst screaming that AMERICAN WORKERS and JOBS have to be protected, and whose campaign manager is tarred with Abramoff? Gee, okay, you've convinced me; I guess I really HAVE TO support a rumpled, dour, nothing moves but his lips, when he talks in a monotone guy.
Don't knock it...those appear to be conservative virtues these days.
I have no idea why. Unless he did it on a bet for $10,000,000 and gave the money to charity, I can't think of a good reason.
Posting them do you and your pals no good at all; it just makes you look ridiculous and Rudy look better and better and BETTER! :-)
Right. Then why are you so upset?
We don't have his Congressional voting record to go by.
It's pretty PATHETIC when information about liberalism on a conservative forum is considered spam.
I didn't. I said Giuliani was fascist, in the classical sense of a method of governance and without regard to the murderous record of its most notable archetypes.
From Human Events:
Rudy's Strong Pro-Abortion Stance
As these comments from a 1989 conversation with Phil Donahue show, Rudy Giuliani is staunchly in favor of abortion:
"I've said that I'll uphold a woman's right of choice, that I will fund abortion so that a poor woman is not deprived of a right that others can exercise, and that I would oppose going back to a day in which abortions were illegal.
I do that in spite of my own personal reservations. I have a daughter now; if a close relative or a daughter were pregnant, I would give my personal advice, my religious and moral views ...
Donahue: Which would be to continue the pregnancy.
Giuliani: Which would be that I would help her with taking care of the baby. But if the ultimate choice of the woman - my daughter or any other woman - would be that in this particular circumstance [if she had] to have an abortion, I'd support that. I'd give my daughter the money for it."
Worse yet, Giuliani even supports partial birth abortion:
"I'm pro-choice. I'm pro-gay rights,Giuliani said. He was then asked whether he supports a ban on what critics call partial-birth abortions. "No, I have not supported that, and I don't see my position on that changing," he responded." -- CNN.com, "Inside Politics" Dec 2, 1999
It's bad enough that Rudy is so adamantly pro-abortion, but consider what that could mean when it comes time to select Supreme Court Justices. Does the description of Giuliani that you've just read make you think he's going to select an originalist like Clarence Thomas, who would vote to overturn Roe v. Wade -- or does it make you think he would prefer justices like Sandra Day O'Connor and Anthony Kennedy who'd leave Roe v. Wade in place?
Rudy's abortion stance is bad news for conservatives who are pro-life or who are concerned about getting originalist judges on the Supreme Court.
An Anti-Second Amendment Candidate
In the last couple of election cycles, 2nd Amendment issues have moved to the back burner mainly because even Democratic candidates have learned that being tagged with the "gun grabber" label is political poison.
Unfortunately, Rudy Giuliani is a proponent of gun control who supported the Brady Bill and the Assault Weapon Ban.
Do Republicans really want to abandon their strong 2nd Amendment stance by selecting a pro-gun control nominee?
From Human Events:
Rudy's Strong Pro-Abortion Stance
As these comments from a 1989 conversation with Phil Donahue show, Rudy Giuliani is staunchly in favor of abortion:
"I've said that I'll uphold a woman's right of choice, that I will fund abortion so that a poor woman is not deprived of a right that others can exercise, and that I would oppose going back to a day in which abortions were illegal.
I do that in spite of my own personal reservations. I have a daughter now; if a close relative or a daughter were pregnant, I would give my personal advice, my religious and moral views ...
Donahue: Which would be to continue the pregnancy.
Giuliani: Which would be that I would help her with taking care of the baby. But if the ultimate choice of the woman - my daughter or any other woman - would be that in this particular circumstance [if she had] to have an abortion, I'd support that. I'd give my daughter the money for it."
Worse yet, Giuliani even supports partial birth abortion:
"I'm pro-choice. I'm pro-gay rights,Giuliani said. He was then asked whether he supports a ban on what critics call partial-birth abortions. "No, I have not supported that, and I don't see my position on that changing," he responded." -- CNN.com, "Inside Politics" Dec 2, 1999
It's bad enough that Rudy is so adamantly pro-abortion, but consider what that could mean when it comes time to select Supreme Court Justices. Does the description of Giuliani that you've just read make you think he's going to select an originalist like Clarence Thomas, who would vote to overturn Roe v. Wade -- or does it make you think he would prefer justices like Sandra Day O'Connor and Anthony Kennedy who'd leave Roe v. Wade in place?
Rudy's abortion stance is bad news for conservatives who are pro-life or who are concerned about getting originalist judges on the Supreme Court.
An Anti-Second Amendment Candidate
In the last couple of election cycles, 2nd Amendment issues have moved to the back burner mainly because even Democratic candidates have learned that being tagged with the "gun grabber" label is political poison.
Unfortunately, Rudy Giuliani is a proponent of gun control who supported the Brady Bill and the Assault Weapon Ban.
Do Republicans really want to abandon their strong 2nd Amendment stance by selecting a pro-gun control nominee?
He was talking about when Clinton was finally railroaded into signing the welfare bill and lowering the capital gains tax.
It doesn't mean that EVERYONE here has to agree with his words.
The INNER CIRCLE DINNERR is a well established event, in N.Y.C. ( with comperable events in other cities, BTW ), in which politicos and parts of the MSM have dinner and perform skits FOR CHARITY! The INNER CIRCLE raises a lot of money and gives it to TWENTY different charities, every spring. Every single mayor, for decades, has performed in this event. Like the one in D.C., where the president comes on last, does jokes, so does the mayor of N.Y.C. come on last and does a song and sometimes dance and always jokes.
Besides the skit in the pink dress ( which was a Marilyn Monroe spoof ) he has also appeared at the ICD riding onto the stage on a HARLEY ( why don't you and your ilk ever post those...could it be that it doesn't serve your extremely biased view of things? ), and in other costumes as well.
Rudy repeated the skit on SNL and also on a cable T.V. show,raising $100,000 more for the Disaster Relief Fund, ONE MONTH AFTER 9/11!
He appeared with the Radio City Music-hall ( pictures of same have also been posted to FR ) to raise money for POOR CHILDREN'S CHRISTMAS PRESENTS.
No, he isn't a cross dresser. No, he didn't do any of these things because he's some kind of "weirdo", but rather, he put himself out there for a GOOD reason. So do many other men, in and out of politics.
I am not "upset" at all; though I do admit to being surprised at the abject, mordant stupidity of some posters here and at the ridiculous lengths that they will go to, to make themselves and FR look worse than DU.
LOL
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