To: DanielLongo
So far all of your sources are from "Anti-Mormons".
I wouldn't expect to find Xenu and Thetan info on the Scientology website either.
Kindly identify which parts of what I posted are false.
Simply saying that the sources are "anti-Mormon" doesn't cut it.
38 posted on
03/12/2007 8:09:22 PM PDT by
peyton randolph
(What we have done for others and the world remains and is immortal - Albert Pike)
To: peyton randolph; FethFiada
Post a statement or quote from our scriptures, prophets, or apostles and I will be happy to have a conversation. That seems to me a fair request. But for argument's sake:
1. The New Testament writers say that Jesus did not receive a fullness at once but grew grace to grace. You are correct that we do not believe Jesus to be Heavenly Father, that they are two distinct personages. There is no doctrine, statement, or assumption that Heavenly father had a physical union with the "Virgin" Mary. We believe that it was a sacred act and that Jesus in his mortality was formed as are we all by a union of two individuals, i.e. half of his mother and half of his Father. We believe we are all spirit children of our Father in Heaven, but only Christ, as the scriptures testify, was the the only begotten of the Father in the flesh.
2. We do believe that Lucifer was as much spiritually begotten of our Father as was Jesus. However, there was no rivalry. The plan of salvation was authored by our Father in Heaven. Jesus supported and defended that plan of agency and accountability as did Michael the Archangel. Satan rebelled as did a third of the host of heaven. For this they were cast out of the presence of God. The scriptures are very clear about this.
3. We believe that there is only one Savior and one Atonement. Again, if you disagree with that statement, then site a scripture or statement by a prophet or apostle, who would be according to us (and me particularly)an authority. We do believe that God created many worlds by the power of his Word (Jesus Christ) and that they too are populated as ours is by His children. However, we believe Christ's atonement to be universal, ie his mercy covers them all. As for becoming gods, I will quote directly from the New Testament, which I assume you hold as authority:
John Chapter 10
31 Then the Jews took up stones again to stone him.
32 Jesus answered them, Many good works have I shewed you from my Father; for which of those works do ye stone me?
33 The Jews answered him, saying, For a good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man, makest thyself God.
34 Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods?
35 If he called them gods, unto whom the word of God came, and the scripture cannot be broken;
36 Say ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent into the world, Thou blasphemest; because I said, I am the Son of God?
37 If I do not the works of my Father, believe me not.
38 But if I do, though ye believe not me, believe the works: that ye may know, and believe, that the Father is in me, and I in him.
39 Therefore they sought again to take him: but he escaped out of their hand,
As for intercourse with multiple wives, again, you must site an authority. That we believe our marriage covenants are eternal under the New and Everlasting Covenant of marriage,yes. That we believe that our destiny is to continue our Father's work and that it is prized, yes. We believe that our Father's work and His glory is to bring to pass the immortality and eternal life of man. We believe that the object of His happiness is to have us share in His joy. We believe that we have heavenly parents and that the joy we find in this life when living the gospel of Jesus Christ is a precursor, a taste, of the many wonders that await us beyond this probationary state. I read into the statement, perhaps wrongly, that you think we achieve godhood at the resurrection or in a moment. This is not the case. But it is his design. His joy is pronounced in the elevating of all. That is why he created us. That is why He loves us. Truly our Father. The very best.
39 posted on
03/12/2007 8:44:40 PM PDT by
DanielLongo
(Don't tread on me)
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