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Parents fume over salacious sex lesson
Chicago Tribune ^ | March 10, 2007 | Tracy Dell'Angela

Posted on 03/10/2007 2:26:57 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife

A health teacher made 8th graders read aloud explicit questions about oral sex and masturbation during a sex-education lesson at a suburban school this week, outraging parents who demanded the teacher be disciplined.

The principal at Wolcott School in Thornton said he learned of the lesson early Friday after numerous phone calls from parents and directed the health teacher to apologize to his class for the two-day lesson.

Parents say this apology isn't enough. They plan to attend the Thornton School District board meeting next week to demand that the 27-year-old teacher, Scott Groff, be suspended or fired.

"My daughter brought it to our attention because she was disgusted with it," said Grady Braley, father of a Wolcott 14-year-old. "There's certain things at her age they need to know. But this was a how-to manual."

"It's creepy, and I'd like to know why he's still teaching."

Braley's daughter, Sandi, said she objected to the lesson, but the teacher told her it was part of the school's "human sexuality" curriculum.

"I just felt really uncomfortable talking about this in a class with boys and girls," Sandi Braley said. "I was like, 'Mr. Groff, why do we need to learn this?' He just looked at me and said, 'Calm down, calm down.'"

Even a local organization that is pushing to get more comprehensive sex-education programs into Illinois schools said the material and the way it was taught was "really over the top."

(Excerpt) Read more at chicagotribune.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: education; homosexualagenda; moralabsolutes; parentsrights; publicschools; queerschools
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1 posted on 03/10/2007 2:27:00 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Unfortunately it has been the "norm" atleast since 1974. Not sure if they still offer Sex. Ed. in 5th grade but they did when I went to school and the only thing different was that the students would write the questions, put them in a box and the teacher would ask the questions out loud using whatever explicit language was written.

Some students would actually test the teachers by writing the worst possible questions using the worst language you could think of and there was no limit.


2 posted on 03/10/2007 2:36:58 AM PST by tsowellfan (http://www.cafenetamerica.com/)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
He just looked at me and said, 'Calm down, calm down.'"

I'll just bet he did.

Maybe he should have asked her to stay after class so he could discuss her concerns in more detail privately.

L

3 posted on 03/10/2007 2:41:20 AM PST by Lurker (Calling islam a religion is like calling a car a submarine.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

We have stooped that low as to teach about oral sex in the classroom, we are a morally decaying country.


4 posted on 03/10/2007 2:55:38 AM PST by garylmoore (Faith is the assurance of things unseen.)
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To: garylmoore

Any oral sex dissertation in a classroom should be called the Bill Clinton Lesson. What a shameless disgrace.


5 posted on 03/10/2007 3:05:21 AM PST by tenthirteen
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To: Cincinatus' Wife


8th grade verbal porn at the taxpayer's expense is over he top for me at least.


6 posted on 03/10/2007 3:10:33 AM PST by padre35 (I am from the "let's stop eating our own" wing of the Republican Party)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

And to think, in 8th grade I got an in school suspension for having a Playboy magazine in my gym bag. Now it is the TEACHERS who are bringing in the smut!


7 posted on 03/10/2007 3:25:10 AM PST by Mobile Vulgus
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Anybody see Monty Pythons "The Meaning of Life"?? Thats the first thing I thought of when I read this, but I'm a goofball.

This is, sadly, not surprising anymore.


8 posted on 03/10/2007 3:28:22 AM PST by kb2614 (Hell hath no fury than a bureaucrat scorned)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

to me, its very wrong that you can not have God in school, but you can have all the sex you want


9 posted on 03/10/2007 3:32:40 AM PST by sure_fine ( • not one to over kill the thought process™ •)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
I remember my 'health' class from the 60's when our first year gym teacher Mr. Chatham (who looked eerily like Clark Kent) got up in front of the class with an overhead projector and proceeded to literally READ the curriculum material to us (with the obligatory smirks and snickers from us guys, it WAS still an all-male gym class for us), and never will any of us in that class forget when Mr. Chatham pointed to the groin of a sketch of a young lady on the overhead, and said "what are these hairs called?" and one wise guy said "PUBLIC HAIRS!" and Mr. Chatham corrected him saying, "not quite, those are -pubic hairs-" and our young fellow comedian retorted "if it's Suzi _____ (last name of 'popular' young lady deleted), they're PUBLIC hairs!"

Mr. Chatham just folded up the book and said "We're done for today."
10 posted on 03/10/2007 4:03:31 AM PST by mkjessup ("ahhh don't feel noways tired...ahhh've come too faaaaaar...from whar ahhh started from...!")
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Oh dear....

Hahaha! Great story! I bet that one's good for parties...


11 posted on 03/10/2007 4:09:10 AM PST by CheyennePress
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To: CheyennePress
Oh dear....
Hahaha! Great story! I bet that one's good for parties...


Especially since Suzi went on to become a very devout and well respected Christian school teacher, proving that the Lord can change every heart, even when it disappoints scores of virile young men. ;)
12 posted on 03/10/2007 4:12:15 AM PST by mkjessup ("ahhh don't feel noways tired...ahhh've come too faaaaaar...from whar ahhh started from...!")
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Here are the questions. I can't imagine young teens having to read these aloud in class:

What is the average penis size?

Does my vagina look the way it should?

Where is the G-spot and what is it?

Where is the clitoris and what is it?

Is there any way of finding out whether a girl is a virgin or not without going to the doctors?

How do you masturbate?

Is too much masturbation bad for you?

Where can I get condoms from?

How often do people have sex

Is there a way of stopping premature ejaculation?

Does sexual intercourse hurt?

Is there a need for lubrication?

If a woman experiences problems reaching orgasm with boyfriend can she do anything about it?

How do you French kiss?

What is oral sex?

Which STDs are transmitted through oral sex?

Is receiving oral sex with a condom safe? Can you pass on or become infected with STDs as a result of kissing?

Do you need to use condoms during anal sex?

If my girlfriend is on birth control do we still need to use a condom?

13 posted on 03/10/2007 4:20:39 AM PST by cincinnati65 (Lucky participant in 189 different Nigerian business deals......still waiting on payment.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

This is bizarre. When I was in school (80's), our sex ed (which was actually part of our health class) consisted of diagrams on how babies were made and information on STD's. It was all things that you could find in almost any medical reference book. That was it. It must have lasted for less than a week and then we moved onto other things. Why have we moved onto giving pornography to our youth? I certainly don't want to pay for that. Crazy.


14 posted on 03/10/2007 4:22:16 AM PST by grimalkin (Politics are very much like war. We may even have to use poison gas at times. - Winston Churchill)
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To: cincinnati65

This must be from the How to be a Porn Star 101 curriculum.


15 posted on 03/10/2007 4:28:24 AM PST by gotribe (There's still time to begin a war in Iraq.)
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To: metmom

another reason to homeschool ping


16 posted on 03/10/2007 4:32:12 AM PST by scottteng (Proud parent of a Star scout.)
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To: cincinnati65
Those are the questions? Holy cow!

If I tried asking people those questions, I'd probably be arrested.

17 posted on 03/10/2007 4:38:10 AM PST by csvset
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To: csvset

The article referenced avert.org Sex General Questions. That's a copy of the questions from their site. It was pretty clear that the answers to these questions were written from a female point of view.


18 posted on 03/10/2007 4:40:11 AM PST by cincinnati65 (Lucky participant in 189 different Nigerian business deals......still waiting on payment.)
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To: cincinnati65
Do you need to use condoms during anal sex?

No doubt the 8th graders had been asking themselves this very question even before they came to the class.

19 posted on 03/10/2007 4:50:33 AM PST by madprof98 ("moritur et ridet" - salvianus)
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To: grimalkin
When I was in school (80's), our sex ed (which was actually part of our health class)

When I was in school (late 50s into the 60s) our health class didn't have anything on sex and the most personal it got was washing hands after going to the bathroom.

20 posted on 03/10/2007 5:01:47 AM PST by NewHampshireDuo
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