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To: pablo H

That is simply an incorrect analysis. There is not one definition of a "conservative." It is a broad movement, and there are plenty of disagreements over the details of it.

Otherwise, we'd have a party platform that almost never changes and that there is little discussion about.

Even social conservatives disagree among themselves regarding social matters.

But there are numerous categories of people who identify themselves as conservatives. Neo-cons, paleo-cons, evangelicals, fiscal conservatives, libertarian conservatives, etc.

You can't just claim that your particular brand of conservatism is the only true one out there. If you try to do that, and be exclusionary about it, you'll find yourself alone in the wilderness.


554 posted on 03/11/2007 11:31:15 AM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: Dog Gone
"But there are numerous categories of people who identify themselves as conservatives. Neo-cons, paleo-cons, evangelicals, fiscal conservatives, libertarian conservatives, etc."

This is exactly the problem. Basically, liberal Republican and Libertarians, have hijacked the label "conservative" to make their minority positions more popular. They know that "conservatism" is popular with the American people and liberal/libertarian is not.

This no such thing as a "paleo-con" its just a label used by Republican liberal and moderates to marginalize people who disagree with them.

FR's mission statement is a perfect example of what is a "Conservative". If you disagree with 50% of it, you're not a 'xxx conservative' - you're a moderate or a liberal.

As Rush says, we've gotten to point where we're changing what "conservative" means, out of niceness or political expediency.
560 posted on 03/11/2007 12:11:40 PM PDT by pablo H (Remember '96- No more Doles!)
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To: Dog Gone

You're obfuscating.

It is a broad movement, and there are plenty of disagreements over the details of it.
***These are not disgreements over details. With team rudy we are being asked to disregard entire PLANKS in the platform.

http://www.gop.com/media/2004platform.pdf

You can't just claim that your particular brand of conservatism is the only true one out there.
***That's why JimRob goes to the trouble of defining conservatism IN HERE, rather than "out there". Why don't you take up your attempts at redefining conservatism with him, and have him change his statement on the front page? Oh, I already know the answer -- because JimRob WON'T change it. It was there when you and I signed up as far as I recall, it's still there today, and attempts to redefine it in the name of the newest expediency are being met with proper resistance. You might have more luck with redefinition efforts on other websites.


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576 posted on 03/11/2007 3:47:07 PM PDT by Kevmo (Duncan Hunter just needs one Rudy G Campaign Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVBtPIrEleM)
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