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To: Kevmo
I agree with you that bedrock principles are important.

Where I disagree with you are on the priorities. For me, national security and the economy are issues that are rightly addressed by the federal government...where as issues such as abortion and gay unions (the next front on the homosexual agenda) are best left to the states.

We can not affect social change through the vote. Social change happens from the bottom up. Social change is a populist phenomenon -- and the church, not the voting booth, is where you go for redress.

I'm old enough to remember a very different America than when have today; an American society that was polite, and without public vulgarity, such as we have today.

I think Hollywood has greater affect on social mores than does the federal government.
369 posted on 03/10/2007 6:08:56 AM PST by aligncare (No, the science is NOT settled.)
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To: aligncare

I agree with you that bedrock principles are important.
***Then all that remains for us to agree on is which are the bedrock principles and which are not. Why do you think there is so much invective aimed at rudy from the right? Because there are some bedrock principles that he is leaving out. Bad move. I see rudybot postings all the time saying that they would vote for Hunter, and I see socon postings that say they would not vote for rudy. That's a BIG indicator of a few bedrock principles that are being left outside the tent in order to let in some rice.


Where I disagree with you are on the priorities. For me, national security and the economy are issues that are rightly addressed by the federal government...where as issues such as abortion and gay unions (the next front on the homosexual agenda) are best left to the states.
***Well, I'm a socon posting on a socon site for a socon candidate and those are socon bedrock principles that JimRob puts up on the front page. If a person disagrees with the priorities, why would they go onto a socon site and push a solib candidate and expect anything less than heartfelt reproof? This "best left to the states" thing is just the latest intellectual copout and falls on the weight of its own nonsense because it wasn't the states rights thing that got us here in the first place on things like abortion -- it was the SCOTUS.


We can not affect social change through the vote.
***Baloney. Defeatist nonsense right when we are almost ready to change the tide in the supreme court after 3 decades of liberal activist ascendancy.

Social change happens from the bottom up. Social change is a populist phenomenon -- and the church, not the voting booth, is where you go for redress.
***Baloney. That dog won't hunt, that shiite don't fly.


I'm old enough to remember a very different America than when have today; an American society that was polite, and without public vulgarity, such as we have today.
***Then why are you arguing on the same side as the vulgarists today?



I think Hollywood has greater affect on social mores than does the federal government.
***I agree. But keep in mind this one sentence. "I have not knowingly ever been associated with a communist." That came from Washington and hit Hollywood hard. One thing people forget about Hollywood is that it's a business that needs to sell its wares. Heck, even hollywood forgets that. If they put out pro-family, clean movies & TV, they tend to make money. When they cross the line, they lose money. It's a business. There's one other thing bigger than Hollyweird and the Federal Guvmint: God. But that subject is much bigger than we can tackle in a few posts.


389 posted on 03/10/2007 8:33:13 AM PST by Kevmo (Duncan Hunter just needs one Rudy G Campaign Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVBtPIrEleM)
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