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Then you haven't been on many of the rudy threads where there's just crickets when we ask questions of substance.

No, I have read most I just don't pipe-in on all of them. IMHO the threads follow a predictable pattern that ultimately ends up in a flame war over who is, or isn't, a good conservative. I tend to never make fun of anyone else's candidate but I have taken a few shots at what I considered to be hypocrisy in the arguments and the way they are presented.

I guess the problem I have with the Rudy flaming really has no solution. I.e., if someone didn't witness first-hand what he achieved in NYC, and the battles that were fought to get there, they really can't ever understand who he is. The reporting just can't, or won't, communicate that to folks in the heartland or Left Coast. I see Rudy supporters try to communicate the above in the threads but as I said it's just not something you can put into words and have people truly understand.

I also tend to be a "big tent" ideology subscriber. There's a lot of stuff I don't like in Rudy's record but my core issues are met. So to each his own. I'll pull the "R" lever either way on election day.

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"..if someone didn't witness first-hand what he achieved in NYC, and the battles that were fought to get there, they really can't ever understand who he is. .."

Tell that to preborn babies who burned to death from saline in earlier abortions, or get ripped apart from partial-birth abortions.

I also tend to be a "big tent" ideology subscriber. There's a lot of stuff I don't like in Rudy's record but my core issues are met. So to each his own. I'll pull the "R" lever either way on election day.
***I'm a socon. Rudy isn't. I'm supporting a socon on this socon forum. If you show me where I signed up here that this is a GOP forum, then I'll gladly commit to tripping the "r" lever on that day; but this ain't a GOP forum, it's a socon forum and the rudophiles are pushing a solib onto socons and they're getting predictable blowback, especially by folks who have a socon candidate. With Duncan, my core issues are met. With Rudy, they aren't. It will only be me in that voting booth on that day. But if it's Rudy in the 'r' column, the GOP is risking much more than just losing a couple of diehard rightwing crazies. There are millions who would be disenfranchised. It will not be healthy for the republican party.